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Old 06-08-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Its a pointless question, population growth is tied heavily into whether or not a province is giving out transfer payments. Being the only french part of the country, and the fact that the rest of canada puts very little value on french means its near impossible for their population to grow at a siginifcant rate.
Regarding population growth...

Although it is not as turbo-charged as places like Alberta, Quebec's population is growing at healthy clip.

Its birth rate is up and is now one of the higer ones in the country, after being the lowest for several decades.

Quebec also gets more immigrants in total numbers than any other province except Ontario. Although this is somewhat normal, since it is the second-biggest province in population and has the second-biggest city. But at some times in recent history, BC was getting more immigrants than Quebec.

Relative to population, Quebec takes in more immigrants that the good old United States of America.

In an average year, Quebec takes in more immigrants in sheer numbers than most US states with a comparable or slightly higher population (VA, PA, OH, MI, IL, GA, NC). It also takes in as many immigrants as New York, which has double Quebec's population (just under 50,000 for each).

Still relative to population, Quebec takes in more immigrants than the immigrant boom states of CA, FL and TX.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Working with 300 Francophones the subject of Quebecs separation comes up on occasion and when i ask what will happen if Quebec separates and then falls into economic ruin on par with a Haiti of the north the usual response is well then we'll join the United States .
I doubt the USA would want to take on the financial burden of Quebec but i'm sure it will pay handsomely for ownership of all Quebecs abundant natural resources.
And a Canada minus Quebec wouldnt need to join the USA or would Canadians want to.
Jambo's undoubtedly non-savant sampling notwithstanding, having Quebec separate from Canada and then joining the U.S. is not a serious option entertained by anyone even the slightest bit knowledgeable here.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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Regarding population growth...

Although it is not as turbo-charged as places like Alberta, Quebec's population is growing at healthy clip.

Its birth rate is up and is now one of the higer ones in the country, after being the lowest for several decades.

Quebec also gets more immigrants in total numbers than any other province except Ontario. Although this is somewhat normal, since it is the second-biggest province in population and has the second-biggest city. But at some times in recent history, BC was getting more immigrants than Quebec.

Relative to population, Quebec takes in more immigrants that the good old United States of America.

In an average year, Quebec takes in more immigrants in sheer numbers than most US states with a comparable or slightly higher population (VA, PA, OH, MI, IL, GA, NC). It also takes in as many immigrants as New York, which has double Quebec's population (just under 50,000 for each).

Still relative to population, Quebec takes in more immigrants than the immigrant boom states of CA, FL and TX.
Quebec probably takes in a lot immigrants, but how many of them really settled in Quebec for good?

It is well-known that Quebec has a more relaxed immigration policy yet once approved, the immigrant can land everywhere he/she wants. I have several friends who applied for Quebec and never landed there. I wonder if they count as the immigrants Quebec takes in? I also know many who landed in Quebec but later moved in elsewhere.

In the end, the number of taking-in doesn't matter. What matters is population growth.

During 2001-2011, Quebec's population growth only beats the four Atlantic Canada provinces and was below national average.

Figure*3 Population growth rate (in percentage) of provinces and territories, 2001 to 2006 and 2006 to 2011
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Quebec probably takes in a lot immigrants, but how many of them really settled in Quebec for good?

It is well-known that Quebec has a more relaxed immigration policy yet once approved, the immigrant can land everywhere he/she wants. I have several friends who applied for Quebec and never landed there. I wonder if they count as the immigrants Quebec takes in? I also know many who landed in Quebec but later moved in elsewhere.

In the end, the number of taking-in doesn't matter. What matters is population growth.

During 2001-2011, Quebec's population growth only beats the four Atlantic Canada provinces and was below national average.

Figure*3 Population growth rate (in percentage) of provinces and territories, 2001 to 2006 and 2006 to 2011
The Atlantic provinces really suck then, don't they? What a bunch of good-for-nothing slackers.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Mississippi Delta!
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Most of those who talk about independence are serious about Quebec becoming an independent country. I live here. I know them. Trust me. It's not a joke and it is not a bluff regardless of what other Canadians might tell you.
Do these separatists tend to be of a Marxist bent and align themselves with countries that do not like the USA?

From what I have seen in these comments, some of the respondents think what Quebec needs is more socialism in the form of free college tuition. Where do you think the money will come from? And you better believe that if Quebec does become independent, it will have to raise taxes even higher if it becomes the socialist paradise the separatists want. You can't have something for nothing!

As far as preserving the French language, why should the rest of Canada become as fluent in French as Quebeckers are? Wouldn't it be easier for Quebeckers who want to move outside the province to become fluent in English? Let's look at Ireland. For many years, Ireland has pulled out all the stops to preserve the Irish language. Signs are bilingual, there is Irish-language media, and learning the language is compulsory. Yet in the end, most Irish communicate with one another in English.

By the way, why are there so many misspelled words in the comments I have read?

P.S. On another thread, there was talk about how Canadians are less political than Americans. But now I've got you talking about politics!
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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By the way, why are there so many misspelled words in the comments I have read?
Are you referring to my posts?

Just so that you know - I am writing in my second language here.

And this forum is probably the only place where I will be using the English language today.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Mississippi Delta!
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Are you referring to my posts?

Just so that you know - I am writing in my second language here.

And this forum is probably the only place where I will be using the English language today.
Actually, Acajack, your posts are the best all around!
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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As far as preserving the French language, why should the rest of Canada become as fluent in French as Quebeckers are? Wouldn't it be easier for Quebeckers who want to move outside the province to become fluent in English?
That's not really the issue. Quebecers who move outside of the province to other parts of Canada all do learn to speak English (either before going or soon after arriving). The language issue is mostly about what happens "internally" in Quebec, and related to the perception that some people (either anglos born in Quebec, other Canadians who have moved here, and even some immigrants) are trying to impose English in Quebec, as opposed to making an effort to speak French.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Actually, Acajack, your posts are the best all around!
Thanks! I can't be held responsible for anyone's grammar skills other than my own!
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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Do these separatists tend to be of a Marxist bent and align themselves with countries that do not like the USA?
They are not really Marxist. More social-democrats. Similar to the socialist or labour parties in European countries (think of the new French president). They aren't anti-American per se and certainly wouldn't align themselves with any rogue states like Venezuela against the U.S., but they wouldn't toe the American line like the current Canadian or UK governments do.
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