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Old 06-22-2012, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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(eg. the claim recently that not long ago, for the first time in history, there are more Canadians in the West than the East now)
What definition of the East is being used to make this claim?
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Sunnyside, Calgary
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What definition of the East is being used to make this claim?
of Ontario (on both sides).
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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of Ontario (on both sides).
Ho-kay. Grouping Quebec and the Atlantic provinces together as a "region" is kind of a weird construct.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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Ontario and Quebec still have 62.5% of the country's population. No doubt though there are great jobs available out west right now. But Alberta's population percentage wise is no different now then it was 30-40 years ago. The media hype of Canada's western provinces taking over is not as impressive as it sounds. Ontario and Quebec are not losing people contrary to what some media reports lead people to assume. In fact, Quebec is gaining about 75,000 new people a year NET while Ontario is gaining 150,000 new people each year. These numbers already take into account people moving to other provinces.

BUT I do think over the next 20-30 years you are going to see Western Canada play an increasing role in the Canadian economy and as a result their population will increase further. An Alberta of 5 million people is probably only about 20 years away (they are projected to hit the 4 million mark by the 2016 census). But voting wise, Ontario and Quebec will continue dominate with 199 out of 338 seats in the 2015 election. The two provinces will receive a combined 18 extra seats. Alberta and BC will each get 6 new seats for a total of 12 for Western Canada.

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Old 06-22-2012, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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What definition of the East is being used to make this claim?
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of Ontario (on both sides).
Yeah, that's probably it. I first heard about it on the radio and some news articles I think -- the claim that the "West" has just surpassed the "East" in population earlier this year for the first time in history based on the census, where upon closer inspection they excluded Ontario as neither eastern nor western.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20120208/census-data-release-120208/

Latest Census confirms Ontario's decline | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:41 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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Ho-kay. Grouping Quebec and the Atlantic provinces together as a "region" is kind of a weird construct.
Yes I think grouping Canada as 'west/east' is overly simplistic. I see it as British Columbia, the Prairies, Ontario, Quebec, the Maritimes + Newfoundland, and then the territories.

Ontario isn't really 'eastern Canada' because northwestern Ontario is actually closer to the west coast than it is to St John's, and even Toronto has far more of a 'central' feeling than an eastern feeling.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:51 PM
 
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Yes I think grouping Canada as 'west/east' is overly simplistic. I see it as British Columbia, the Prairies, Ontario, Quebec, the Maritimes + Newfoundland, and then the territories.

Ontario isn't really 'eastern Canada' because northwestern Ontario is actually closer to the west coast than it is to St John's, and even Toronto has far more of a 'central' feeling than an eastern feeling.
I always considered Ontario "Eastern Canada" (and Quebec and Atlantic Canada) and the prairies + BC "Western Canada". I always found Manitoba having more of a central feeling and it was around the center of Canada. I find east of Manitoba is eastern Canada and west of it is Western Canada and Manitoba is in the middle of the east and west in Canada.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:35 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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I always considered Ontario "Eastern Canada" (and Quebec and Atlantic Canada) and the prairies + BC "Western Canada". I always found Manitoba having more of a central feeling and it was around the center of Canada. I find east of Manitoba is eastern Canada and west of it is Western Canada and Manitoba is in the middle of the east and west in Canada.
Personally I'd consider Thunder Bay to be the line, but then again I haven't been anywhere between Waterton Lakes and Parry Sound so I can't really say from experience like you can.
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