English speakers in Quebec, French speakers outside Quebec (appointed, daycare)

[MexiQuebecois]

Originally Posted by dougie86

Teachers in some Vancouver schools collect fines when the students converse in languages other than English. Not sure what they do with the money collected though, buy timbits at the end of the week?

They also do this in the FSL (French as a Second Language) schools in Montréal, but I'm going there to learn French so I agree with it. I can speak in whichever language I want during my break though.

Btw we used the money at the end of the month to buy snacks/pizza+movie So fun.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by aliss

The DAILY MAIL is a UK tabloid newspaper which is well-known in Britain for publishing misleading/embellished/outrageous stories. It is widely known as "the Daily Fail".

How about the National Post?
Montreal schools to start scanning playgrounds for English chatter | News | National Post

Dont get me wrong i'm not anti French,Learn French,Speak French,Live your life in French great people,
i think Montreal and Quebec are North Americas best kept secret. What i am against is the governments endless rules , regulations and laws marginalizing the English culture that used to flourish here in Quebec and is now relegated to a few enclaves where the older generation hasnt died off yet or their progeny havent moved to less restrictive linguistic parts of North America yet.
Give it another generation and they'll have that outrageous 8% Anglo number down to an insignificant 2% or less.

[Acajack]

None of this is news to me. As one who went to francophone schools outside Quebec for some years in the 70s already then we were coerced (forced) to speak French at all times. You were threatened with expulsion if you did not comply.

[jambo101]

The reason for the link was to point out the inflexibility of the Francophone hierarchy here in Quebec when dealing with English, And while you may have been subjected to a strict adherence to speaking French in a French school outside Quebec its basis was to do with your learning French here in Quebec its more about eradicating English. While you are trying to paint a picture of Francophones having similar problems outside Quebec as Anglophones in Quebec In those communities outside Quebec were you your language or your culture ever subjected to the English equivalent of the Office De La Langue Francais? basically a whole department of the Quebec Government dedicated to eradicating English.
Or how about Other groups dedicated to the elimination of English
Societe St Jean Baptiste societe
Movement Montreal Francais
Movement Imperatif Francais.
For those interested in how we got to where we are today heres the story.
Speaking out: Quebec's debate over language laws - Canada - CBC News

Wonder if Peekaboo the parrot ever learned French.

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

There's an old saying: When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
If you go to Quebec to visit or live, learn French first. You may be able to get by in Montreal without knowing enough French to carry on a conversation, but if you go to St.-Louis-du-Ha!-Ha! without knowing French, the residents may say "Ha! Ha!" to you!

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by jambo101

The reason for the link was to point out the inflexibility of the Francophone hierarchy here in Quebec when dealing with English, And while you may have been subjected to a strict adherence to speaking French in a French school outside Quebec its basis was to do with your learning French here in Quebec its more about eradicating English. While you are trying to paint a picture of Francophones having similar problems outside Quebec as Anglophones in Quebec In those communities outside Quebec were you your language or your culture ever subjected to the English equivalent of the Office De La Langue Francais? basically a whole department of the Quebec Government dedicated to eradicating English.
Or how about Other groups dedicated to the elimination of English
Societe St Jean Baptiste societe
Movement Montreal Francais
Movement Imperatif Francais.
For those interested in how we got to where we are today heres the story.
Speaking out: Quebec's debate over language laws - Canada - CBC News

Wonder if Peekaboo the parrot ever learned French.

It is totally fair game to compare francos outside Quebec with anglos in Quebec because French and English are the official languages of Canada and the two communities are supposed to be equal in status.

As for efforts to stamp out the francophones: yes, there have been many over the years and you don't hear much activity on this front these days because many of the francophones have simply been assimilated so there is often no one left to complain.

Just as an example: the oldest French language high school in Ontario is celebrating its anniversary this year. Its 40th anniversary. It opened in 1972. Yet francophones have been in Ontario since the late 1600s and were a fairly large group in the province (10-15%) at the time of Confederation. French-speaking people in Ontario who were of my parents' generation all had to go to school in English, even in towns which were 100% French-speaking. Just one example.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo

There's an old saying: When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
If you go to Quebec to visit or live, learn French first. You may be able to get by in Montreal without knowing enough French to carry on a conversation, but if you go to St.-Louis-du-Ha!-Ha! without knowing French, the residents may say "Ha! Ha!" to you!

Except that a lot people don't see Quebec as being "Rome". Rather, they see it as "Little Italy" or "Koreatown". It's cute and quirky that all these people speak French there but people who speak English, the rightful occupiers of the entire country (Canada) or even continent should not be inconvenienced by this cuteness and quirkiness. Even if they live there.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Except that a lot people don't see Quebec as being "Rome". Rather, they see it as "Little Italy" or "Koreatown". It's cute and quirky that all these people speak French there but people who speak English, the rightful occupiers of the entire country (Canada) or even continent should not be inconvenienced by this cuteness and quirkiness. Even if they live there.

AJ there is no plot or conspiracy for the English to be rightful occupiers of N.America its just the way it is.And as it is you can go out and put up giant French signs or signs in any other language anywhere you want in N.America,its called freedom.Go back to Quebec and post up some giant English signs then talk to me about inconvenience as all the Anglophobes howl in protest and the language police descend upon you with stiff fines and warnings., as for Quebec being perceived as cute and quirky most N.Americans dont even know Quebec exists,those that do merely think of it as being a great place thats heavily French speaking.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by jambo101

AJ there is no plot or conspiracy for the English to be rightful occupiers of N.America its just the way it is..

Not anymore anyway. It's all been in the "been there, done that", "done" folder for a while now!

[jambo101]

Well lets just agree that things are more like they are now than they ever were before..