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Old 09-07-2012, 12:32 PM
 
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Do French Canadians have lower per-capita incomes, lower life expectancy, and less formal education than "Anglo" Canadians? Are they discriminated against in the workplace outside of Quebec?

 
Old 09-07-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Well, French Canadians probably would have lower per-capita income just because Quebec has lower per-capita income, but within Quebec Anglos have slightly lower per-capita incomes then French Canadians. As far as I understand, in mixed regions within and outside of Quebec French Canadians have an average per-capita income and life expectancy for the areas and make the same money for the same job and/or education. In short, no, they don't form a social under class any more, although fifty years ago the answer would have been a bit more complicated. They do studies that show blacks, aboriginals and immigrants are discriminated against for stuff like this, but I don't think there's any evidence French Canadians are.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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Do French Canadians have lower per-capita incomes, lower life expectancy, and less formal education than "Anglo" Canadians? Are they discriminated against in the workplace outside of Quebec?
Outside of quebec there rarely found, and usually get benefits outside of quebec. For most purposes quebec(french canada) functions as another country. Its such a non issue for most canadians, that its border line trolling just to talk about the issue. Outside of quebec there are more chinese than french canadians, so there almost never the main minority in most of the country.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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Do French Canadians have lower per-capita incomes, lower life expectancy, and less formal education than "Anglo" Canadians? Are they discriminated against in the workplace outside of Quebec?
This thread could cause a huge forum fight... So I would watch what Questions you ask and how you pharse them on this very senstive and very Canadian issue.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Outside of quebec there rarely found, and usually get benefits outside of quebec. For most purposes quebec(french canada) functions as another country. Its such a non issue for most canadians, that its border line trolling just to talk about the issue. Outside of quebec there are more chinese than french canadians, so there almost never the main minority in most of the country.
If you are talking about francophones outside Quebec there are about a million of them. About 10-15% of all of the French Canadians in Canada live outside Quebec.

In quite a few areas they have been there for hundreds of years and were the original European settlers.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 01:44 PM
 
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Outside of quebec there are more chinese than french canadians, so there almost never the main minority in most of the country.
Almost never? French is the second-most spoken language in six of the nine provinces outside Quebec, and in all of the provinces from Manitoba eastwards. In most provinces it is second by a fair margin.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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Historically, Canadian francophones have had lower incomes and lower educational attainment on average when compared to Canadian anglophones.

This began to change very slowly starting in the 60s and 70s and today while there is still a gap many people do not consider it to be significant or an issue. Especially when one considers that the overall cost of living in most of Quebec (including the larger cities) is generally lower than in the ROC, so the standard of living is basically the same.

In 1960, Quebec had the lowest educational attainment in North America.

In the mid 60s, the Government of Canada conducted a study as part of the Royal Commission on Bilingualism and Biculturalism (aka Laurendeau-Dunton) that found that French Canadians were in second-last place on the socio-economic ladder in the province of Quebec (where they comprised 85% of the population). French Canadians were above aboriginals, but below everyone else: Italians, Hungarians, Poles, Russians, and of course the English, Scots, etc.

Since then, things have changed tremendously. When it comes to educational attainment, Québécois in their 20s are close to being the most highly educated demographic in North America.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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Almost never? French is the second-most spoken language in six of the nine provinces outside Quebec, and in all of the provinces from Manitoba eastwards. In most provinces it is second by a fair margin.
I really question those numbers, how are you counting asian dialects such as hindi, urdu, or different dialects of chinese.

Also are you counting anglophones that can speak french

Outside of acadia, metis, and ottawa there dont seem to be much of a french presences in most of canada.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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Languages of Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

according to this chart listed above, there are 600k french speakers outside of quebec with over 75 percent of them being in border regions(ottawa or newbrunswick).

Meaning there are about 100 k in the rest of canada, compared to the millions of immigrants in these regions I think my point of them not being a minority that stands out rings true.
 
Old 09-07-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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Mikmaq32 is more correct than wrong. East of the ottawa region the french presence is quite small felt and not really more than any of the other particular language or ethnic minorities and much much less in the large urban areas.

Which is actually why quebec despite the federal governments insistence that it does not speak for all french canadians is able to galvanize the language issue as english canada vs quebec and not english canada vs french canada.
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