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Old 12-24-2012, 01:16 PM
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Do USA enclaves like Point Roberts in Washington, The Northwest Angle in Minnesota and Alburgh in Vermont have any choice of joining Canada in the see able future?


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Old 12-24-2012, 04:00 PM
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Does Point Roberts in Washington have any chance of joining Canada?

Thats a better question

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Old 12-24-2012, 05:13 PM
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They don't want to join Canada. The Northwest Angle made a fake attempt to join Canada in order to pressure people to give in to some political issue, but even the people who organized that meant it as a ploy, none of them want to stop being Americans. Point Robert's whole economy is based around being in America and taking advantage of their geographic position, so they do things like hold people's online purchases that will only ship to the States and then pass them on to people in Vancouver.

These places are full of Americans with family ties in America. They don't generally want an international border between them and the networks, both business and personal, they've established over many years. It'd also take an act of congress to allow them to secede from the US and join Canada, and I don't think they'd want to do that due to the political optics.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:18 PM
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True but for some reason I fell as if Point Roberts has potential while the other ones don't plus all that border crossing must be a hassle
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:30 AM
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They all have Nexus cards and my understanding is that the Tswassen/Point Roberts crossing is more conversational. Point Roberts is trying to go to two nexus lanes each way during peak times and one non-nexus lane.

What would drive me crazy is the agricultural rules. If the International Market is out of oranges, you have to drive to Bellingham, get the oranges placed in a sealed bag, strapped by Canadian customs to transit through Canada with citrus. Before anyone gives me the "no citrus" line, their is a Point Roberts exception in the US Customs regs. It actually involves day commuters who have to transit through Canada to their destination. There may be two or three other small towns in the US that also can use this rule. I would rather see an exemption for Canadian agricultural goods being allowed in Point Roberts (but not the lower 48). Point Roberts already has a few statutes recognizing its special circumstances. Canadian doctors are allowed to practice medicine in Point Roberts with a BC license.

From BC's perspective, Point Roberts is troubling since it exists to avoid many BC laws. People ship packages there to avoid HST. People gas up there to pay US gas prices. (Point Roberts is the only place in the US that I know of where gas is sold by the liter). Then there are those contraband medium rare hamburgers. I am sure that is a major threat to BC health. As frustrated as BC is with Point Roberts now, it is just a sleepy border town. Thirty years ago it had a reputation of being a bit of a US Tijuana.

PS: There was a great episode of the TV series "The Border" modeled on Standstead, Qe/Derby Line, Vt where the town voted to leave Canada. You can still stream it for free off cbc.ca. I think it was Season 2.

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