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Old 06-16-2013, 02:14 AM
 
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Do they?
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and i proved you wrong, want me to say it again to you why it isn't, just because you dont like it doesn't mean its wrong, lots of stuff you post is BS but we all still deal with it.

This is word to word explaining there statistics.
"Quality of Life Index is an estimation of overall quality of life by using empirical formula (the formula is an our opinion and it's based on experiments). The actual formula might be changed. Currently, we put the highest weight to pollution - if the environment is polluted too much, the economy or safety cannot fulfill it. We put the second highest importance to safety, since it is more important to feel safe rather than wealthy, in our opinion. etc. The number 65 is added so that the numbers are in such range so it rarely goes under zero (65 is a range modifier)."

index.main = 65 + purchasingPowerInclRentIndex - (priceToIncomeRatio * 2) - cpiIndex / 5 + safetyIndex * 3 / 4 + healthIndex / 2 - trafficTimeIndex / 2 - pollutionIndex;

They even explain the purchasing power and the rest fo the criteria even in more depth. Please we all had enough of your pathetic posts.
That website disproportionately favors economic statistics while ignoring many other important aspects.
Here's how the US ranks according to the OECD. I've excluded the Community, Life satisfaction and Self-Reported Health measures as they are subjective (the US ranks pretty badly in the first two anyway):

-Housing Expenditure: 8/36
-Dwelling with basic facilities: 4/36
-Rooms per person: 4/36

-Household wealth: 1/36
-Household net disposable income: 1/36
***Social Inequality: 28/31

-Job security: 28/36
***Gender inequality 3/31
-Personal earnings: 1/36
***Gender inequality: 20/28
***Social inequality: 27/27
-Long-term unemployment rate: 21/36
***Gender inequality: 14/34
***Social inequality: 27/33
-Employment rate: 17/36
***Gender inequality:16/36

***Social inequality: 27/33

-Years in education: 23/36
***Gender inequality: 29/35
-Student skills: 20/36

***Gender inequality: 8/36
***Social inequality: 27/36
-Educational attainment: 6/36
***Gender inequality: 7/35

-Water quality: 15/36
***Gender inequality: 22/36
***Social inequality: 12/36
-Air pollution: 19/36

-Consultation on rule making: 13/36
-Voter turnout: 18/36
***Gender inequality: 28/35
***Social inequality: 31/34

-Life expectancy: 26/36
***Gender inequality: 15/36

-Homicide rate: 32/36
***Gender inequality: 27/35

-Assault rate: 3/36
***Gender inequality: 16/36

-Time devoted to leisure and personal care: 27/36
***Gender inequality: 8/19
-Employees working very long hours: 25/36
***Gender inequality: 9/32

United States

The measures in which the US does worst than most other OECD countries are in bold; the measures in which the US is not in the top 10 are in italics.

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-Health spending accounts for 17.6% of GDP in the United States, by far the highest share in the OECD, and more than eight percentage points higher than the OECD average of 9.5%.
-Soaring obesity rates make the US the fattest country in the OECD with 35.9% of adults found to be obese, more than double the OECD average rate of 17.8%.
As you can see, the US ranks pretty pathetically on everything but wealth. Enjoy your money while you suck at everything else.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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that website disproportionately favors economic statistics while ignoring many other important aspects.
Here's how the us ranks according to the oecd. I've excluded the community, life satisfaction and self-reported health measures as they are subjective (the us ranks pretty badly in the first two anyway):

-housing expenditure: 8/36
-dwelling with basic facilities: 4/36
-rooms per person: 4/36

-household wealth: 1/36
-household net disposable income: 1/36
***social inequality: 28/31

-job security: 28/36
***gender inequality 3/31
-personal earnings: 1/36
***gender inequality: 20/28
***social inequality: 27/27
-long-term unemployment rate: 21/36
***gender inequality: 14/34
***social inequality: 27/33
-employment rate: 17/36
***gender inequality:16/36

***social inequality: 27/33

-years in education: 23/36
***gender inequality: 29/35
-student skills: 20/36

***gender inequality: 8/36
***social inequality: 27/36
-educational attainment: 6/36
***gender inequality: 7/35

-water quality: 15/36
***gender inequality: 22/36
***social inequality: 12/36
-air pollution: 19/36

-consultation on rule making: 13/36
-voter turnout: 18/36
***gender inequality: 28/35
***social inequality: 31/34

-life expectancy: 26/36
***gender inequality: 15/36

-homicide rate: 32/36
***gender inequality: 27/35

-assault rate: 3/36
***gender inequality: 16/36

-time devoted to leisure and personal care: 27/36
***gender inequality: 8/19
-employees working very long hours: 25/36
***gender inequality: 9/32

united states

the measures in which the us does worst than most other oecd countries are in bold; the measures in which the us is not in the top 10 are in italics.

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as you can see, the us ranks pretty pathetically on everything but wealth. Enjoy your money while you suck at everything else.
just admit it. You can nitpick all the staticitsc you want to try and make up excuses for the website. Just remember statistics dont lie.
Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowed

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Old 06-16-2013, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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There are other QOL indexes that also use 'empirical' values and methodologies and you have chosen to ignore them in the past (I know you have because I posted them and you went AWOL). Probably because they don't rank the U.S so high. Hey its natural to do this, but the U.S is not in the top 10 in all QOL indexes - ignoring that is your prerogative but it is obvious to everyone in here except yourself.
Nope i understand, its just went i put up a website that ranks the USA high in, all you posters go nuts about how the website is lying, how its fake, how its bias.
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Nope i understand, its just went i put up a website that ranks the USA high in, all you posters go nuts about how the website is lying, how its fake, how its bias.
Or how you don't seem capable of understanding there are different sets of criteria or how weighting systems work. It all seems more of a criticism of your abilities to understand rather than of the US. It's also really funny.
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:05 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Enjoy your money while you suck at everything else.
Thanks,
i guess I'd expect this childish behavior on the Canada forum.

Canada Inferiority Complex
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:10 PM
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Canada has been blessed by having the US as a neighbor. Anywhere else in the world, Canada would not exist. It would have been incorporated (conquered) into its larger neighbor.

The difference between the Canadian economy and the US is that Canadian economy has always been based on selling raw materials: timber, oil, wheat, etc. etc.

Those times in the economic cycles when commodities do well....Canada does well. When in the economic cycles manufacturing and finance do well...the US does well.

It is cyclical.

That said Canada is a fine country....I would not want to live there again. However, for some people it is fine.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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But...but...they're Number One!
They keep saying so.

Oh, but we are number one, in so many things. You all just don't realize how many things we are number one at.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the entire world. We have more school shooting then anywhere. We spend more money on our military then then the entire rest of the world combined. We produce more firearms then any other country. We have more car thefts then any other country. We have the most credit card debt and the most credit fraud then any other country. Highest rate of obesity, highest divorce rate, highest teen pregnancy rate, highest child abuse death rate, highest rate of illegal drug use. The United States produces more pornography than any other nation in the world. We have the most expensive health care in the world. I could go on and on about all the things we are number one in, but that all I have time for.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:34 PM
 
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Look the Debbie downers are back.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Canada has been blessed by having the US as a neighbor. Anywhere else in the world, Canada would not exist. It would have been incorporated (conquered) into its larger neighbor.
BS, the United States has never had to defend Canada even one time. Most of Canada's defense comes from the UK. There are plenty of independent countries in the world smaller then Canada that haven't been conquered.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:49 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Canada has been blessed by having the US as a neighbor. Anywhere else in the world, Canada would not exist. It would have been incorporated (conquered) into its larger neighbor.

The difference between the Canadian economy and the US is that Canadian economy has always been based on selling raw materials: timber, oil, wheat, etc. etc.

Those times in the economic cycles when commodities do well....Canada does well. When in the economic cycles manufacturing and finance do well...the US does well.

It is cyclical.

That said Canada is a fine country....I would not want to live there again. However, for some people it is fine.
That's historically very much untrue. The US has tried to invade and annex Canada before with the War of 1812 being a war of resistance for Canada against US occupation. It's known that historically both sides had formed various plans on how to both attack and defend against each other. Keep in mind that Canada had been an integral part of the British Empire well into the 20th century and the British Empire was the global superpower for pretty much all of the US's existence up until the aftermath of World War II. Any invasion earlier by the US into Canada, unless done during World War I when the British Empire had its hands tied, would have likely met with substantial losses for the US.

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