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Old 06-27-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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The one where your natural allies across the rest of the continent no longer have any time for your gripes because of your propensity to blow every single thing (no matter how small or insignificant) out of proportion and equate it will with, for example, the genocide of six million people.
It's those small insignifcant things blown out of proportion that slowly brewed up to spawn the FLQ and the resultant shamefull mess they created with the ignorance of Quebecers allowing them free reign until Trudeau imposed the war measures act upon Quebecers as a whole.

The milkman who sat at the supper table and quietly lauded their terrible behaviour, was faced with a soldier on his front walk the next morning demanding to see his identification and realized the true cost of his moment of glee the night before.

It's not so unlikely that situation could happen again only perhaps this time the shoe would be on the other foot?

Language laws are silliness personified and an abject admission of failure.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Jesusland
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So this concerns you, but not the decline of English speakers in Quebec outside of Montreal?
I hope English dies in Quebec
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I hope English dies in Quebec
Your desire for the culture I was born into, raised in, and that I love as well as anyone loves their culture to be completely obliterated because you have some problem with our cousins elsewhere has been noted.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Just pointing out the lunacy of some of Quebecs language laws most of which defy logic, maybe small stuff from your perspective AJ but from an Anglo in Quebec's perspective the suspending of civil liberties is a big deal.As an example, expecting people to abide by laws such as these is absurd
CBC.ca Montreal - Interactive - Highlights from Bill 14
as for allies across the continent ? the Anglos in Quebec have no allies,we're on our own.
And for the equating of Quebec with the Nazis? It was an example of where unbridled intolerance can lead rather than a comparison of the two situations,that said the path to the Holocaust did begin with the denial of civil liberties to the Jews of Germany.
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It's those small insignifcant things blown out of proportion that slowly brewed up to spawn the FLQ and the resultant shamefull mess they created with the ignorance of Quebecers allowing them free reign until Trudeau imposed the war measures act upon Quebecers as a whole.

The milkman who sat at the supper table and quietly lauded their terrible behaviour, was faced with a soldier on his front walk the next morning demanding to see his identification and realized the true cost of his moment of glee the night before.

It's not so unlikely that situation could happen again only perhaps this time the shoe would be on the other foot?

Language laws are silliness personified and an abject admission of failure.
I guess the reason you guys are concerned about things about getting violent and nasty is because you have a good idea about what this is all about: probably 90-95% of the killing that has been done against people who were "different" in Canadian history was done by white anglos against francophones, aboriginals and other minorities, and NOT the other way around.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The only hole i see being dug around here is Quebecs maniacal obsession to make itself into a one dimensional intolerant cultural backwater.
It's funny how a place that is not English-speaking in everyday life is automatically equated with a one-dimensional intolerant cultural backwater...

Is Tokyo a cultural backwater?

What about Rio de Janeiro?

The fact is that, in spite of its historic and current presence and important contribution, Quebec doesn't need to have an intra-muros anglo community in order to be rich, diverse and dynamic. Quebec City is one of the most prosperous and booming cities in Canada at the moment and it doesn't have much of a local anglo community.

Even if the province of Quebec only wanted to draw in immigrants solely from the countries of the Francophonie, it could have a tremendously wide kaleidoscope of the world's cultures represented. The WASP one doesn't necessarily need to be one of them.

Quebec could be like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, the Netherlands, etc., and have a large bilingual or multilingual class of native speakers of the national language (like me) but who know other languages for dealings with people who are from OUTSIDE its borders.

I don't have to speak English at my local grocery store here in Quebec in order to be able to swing deals in English with Americans or other Canadians, or Germans even.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:38 AM
 
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The other cultures you refer to are strong vibrant dynamic cultures that can stand on their own 2 feet without the need for legislation to ban any rival cultures, Quebec on the other hand is akin to a legislated culture that is evidently so feeble that it needs to be artificially propped up by severe language legislation to prevent it from dying a quick death relegating its Francophone citizens to the back of the bus eating Joe Luis and drinking Pepsi types.
With out that artificial component of Bill101 and language police what have you got but a cultural backwater.
As for Quebec City being a superlative in Canada's growth dynamics? Seems many didnt get the same memo.
https://www.google.ca/#safe=active&b...1bb94b0d1c72a8
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The other cultures you refer to are strong vibrant dynamic cultures that can stand on their own 2 feet without the need for legislation to ban any rival cultures, Quebec on the other hand is akin to a legislated culture that is evidently so feeble that it needs to be artificially propped up by severe language legislation to prevent it from dying a quick death relegating its Francophone citizens to the back of the bus eating Joe Luis and drinking Pepsi types.
With out that artificial component of Bill101 and language police what have you got but a cultural backwater.
As for Quebec City being a superlative in Canada's growth dynamics? Seems many didnt get the same memo.
https://www.google.ca/#safe=active&b...1bb94b0d1c72a8
You seem unable to fathom that a place can be economically prosperous and be culturally dynamic (and even diverse) without the presence of an in-house anglophone community...
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:42 AM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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It's not a question of whether or not Quebec could do well without English, it's the fact that you actually support the idea of eliminating the English community. That is racist. You go on and on about WASPs... you do realise that the overwhelming majority of anglophones in Quebec are from a mixed cultural background, right? My family is from Quebec, and we are not of even partial Anglo-Saxon descent.
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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Many places around the world seem to do just fine without an Anglophone demographic.
Theres something i dont understand why you dont understand AJ,the fact that the Quebec Francophone culture can get along just fine if not better with out the need for all the repressive language legislation.
Make other than Francophone people feel welcome and wanted here in Quebec,enjoy the diversity of cultures and i believe Quebec could rise to the forefront of places people want to be in N.America, at the moment the government seems to be doing everything it can to dissuade people from coming here.
Quebec is a potential goldmine of cultural diversity in an otherwise bland fast food culture that is the basic N.American standard, Toss that bill101, language police and that fat English woman at Eatons attitude in the dumpster and watch Quebec soar.Keep piling on the linguistic oppression game and Quebec will remain forever beneath its true potential.
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Of what background are most Anglo-Quebeckers - English, Scottish, or Irish?
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