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Old 07-18-2013, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Any recommendations for a good 4x4 that can deal with very muddy conditions/thick snow outside of Montreal?
Not interested in trucks...but also want something with not too high fuel consumption...40mpg(7L per 100km)
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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How about a Jeep Wrangler TJ or JK it is petty much the best true 4x4 built for off-roading first everything else second you can get in North America?
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:48 PM
 
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How about a Jeep Wrangler TJ or JK it is petty much the best true 4x4 built for off-roading first everything else second you can get in North America?
aren't thy expensive on fuel usage?
also repairs?
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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If you want something more car-like look at the Subaru Forester (4 wheel drive is standard, 21 City / 27 Hwy) or the Chevy Equinox (4 wheel drive option). I doubt there are any 4x4's that get 40mpg
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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There is no way you're going to find a true 4x4 that gets 40mpg.


I second the Wrangler. It cannot be beat. Try to find a Rubicon.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:16 AM
 
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Any recommendations for a good 4x4 that can deal with very muddy conditions/thick snow outside of Montreal?
Not interested in trucks...but also want something with not too high fuel consumption...40mpg(7L per 100km)
Kinda depends on just how much mud and snow you are going to be dealing with, A Subaru product with its All wheel drive may get the job done with decent gas mileage but its not 4 wheel drive its more like an onboard computer can potentially drive any one of the 4 wheels.
If your need is for a lengthy drive thats more than just a dirt driveway a Jeep is probably your only affordable true 4X4 where all wheels are giving traction at the same time,downsides being not so great fuel economy and some Jeeps have reliability issues.
4WD vs AWD: What's The Diff? - Tech Feature - Motor Trend
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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Kinda depends on just how much mud and snow you are going to be dealing with, A Subaru product with its All wheel drive may get the job done with decent gas mileage but its not 4 wheel drive its more like an onboard computer can potentially drive any one of the 4 wheels.
If your need is for a lengthy drive thats more than just a dirt driveway a Jeep is probably your only affordable true 4X4 where all wheels are giving traction at the same time,downsides being not so great fuel economy and some Jeeps have reliability issues.
4WD vs AWD: What's The Diff? - Tech Feature - Motor Trend
it would be more like a 5min drive through muddy terrain in spring (often get stuck), and deep snow until the road is ploughed, then 1hr on the highway.
I'm guessing that 5mins could be done with chains as well but these are a hassle to put on and messy if trying to get to work
AWD could probably cope with that and Japanese models cope better with cold weather don't they (-30s)
Subara Impreza?

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Old 07-19-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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Subaru Impreza,nice Little on the pricey side for a new one though..

http://www.subarurepentigny.com/en/n...mpreza-5-door/
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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it would be more like a 5min drive through muddy terrain in spring (often get stuck), and deep snow until the road is ploughed, then 1hr on the highway.
I'm guessing that 5mins could be done with chains as well but these are a hassle to put on and messy if trying to get to work
AWD could probably cope with that and Japanese models cope better with cold weather don't they (-30s)
Subara Impreza?
The Impreza has very low ground clearance it would be bad on unplowed winter roads I would say if you are going to go with a Subaru get a Outback due to the higher ground clearance and some what beefier suspension.

Have you thought of getting a nice fuel efficient car for most of your driving needs and just Buying a used Jeep Cherokee (XJ) for winters or a older 1987-96 Ford F-Series 4x4 pickup with used plow installed to be you plow truck and 4x4 on your property and to get into town and home on really bad days?

I mean sure a early 90's F-250 4x4 plow truck will go through gas like crazy but if you only drive it 5-6 weeks out of the year then it should not be much of problem and you also can keep your private road plowed and keep your smaller more fuel efficient car able to go up and down your driveway with ease.

Also having a plow truck could come in handy if your car gets stuck on your private road on your property it can pull it out without costing a arm and leg from the tow truck company and a old F-250 4x4 with a plow attachment is relatively cheap to purchase and maintain and a good second vehicle to have if you live off the main roads and are using private non-maintained roads.

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Old 07-19-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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What cars have you been using up till now to traverse this problem area and how often did they get stuck and how were they once out on regular roads?, if getting stuck is a very infrequent occurrence and you have trees on the problematic part of the drive it may be cheaper to just install a winch on your car, or get a beater Jeep thats only used on those times you might get stuck..
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