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Old 08-19-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I think that even if Quebec separated from Canada, it would still have problems carving out its own identity. Some people make think of it as "Ouest-France".
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I think that even if Quebec separated from Canada, it would still have problems carving out its own identity. Some people make think of it as "Ouest-France".
I don't think so. The idea that Québécois are distinct from France is basically as strong as the US vs. the UK.
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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I don't think so. The idea that Québécois are distinct from France is basically as strong as the US vs. the UK.

Then why do so many people talk about Quebec's "French" culture, when you hear few folks talk about the US's "British" culture?
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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If Quebec separation were to occur trust me when i say they'll be dancing in the streets as they will now be free..... to plunge headlong into their linguistic oblivion.The ROC in this day and age will probably exhibit an attitude of good riddance eh!
Well then may I ask what does that do to the position of 'Anglais'? Would that be 'linguistic oblivion?' If separation happens I'm thinking that we should be making sure we know Francais before we go through the ramparts crossing the Rue St Louis. Knowing Francais is fine. If there would be a linguistic clampdown I'd sure have trouble agreeing with that.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Then why do so many people talk about Quebec's "French" culture, when you hear few folks talk about the US's "British" culture?
FYI in French you never hear "culture française" (French culture) in reference to Quebec culture. It is true that the term "Quebec's French language and culture" is used all the time in English (implying that the culture is "French") but this is a bit of an awkward translation.

In Quebec the words used most often would be "francophone" or "québécoise".

The word "français(e)" is used here only in reference to the language: "langue française" or "le français" (with a small f - since "le Français" with a capital F literally means "the Frenchman").
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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Well then may I ask what does that do to the position of 'Anglais'? Would that be 'linguistic oblivion?' If separation happens I'm thinking that we should be making sure we know Francais before we go through the ramparts crossing the Rue St Louis. Knowing Francais is fine. If there would be a linguistic clampdown I'd sure have trouble agreeing with that.
Interesting question as to what would happen to Quebecs Anglophone population in a separate Quebec, i have no idea how the government would play it but going from past experience the Anglophone would probably be made to feel even more unwelcome than they are now and the remaining 8% of us would probably leave or assimilate. But thats just my opinion,anything could happen.
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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You know just in my opinion, I'd be very surprised if that would happen since I have seen the transformation. Perhaps it's other stuff stirring the er 'poutine', and maybe not really language at all, eh?
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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What transformation are you seeing and what other stuff are you referring to.?

Ever since i arrived in Quebec back in the mid 70's all i've seen is more and more restrictive language legislation levied against the Non Francophone, a larger and larger department of Language police to enforce the language laws and now the prospect of increased language legislation in the form of bill14 the highlights of which are =CBC.ca Montreal - Interactive - Highlights from Bill 14
So maybe in a separate Quebec the Francophone government will feel less threatened and ease up on all the language laws or the separatists lightheaded with their new found powers could move to finish the job of linguistic cleansing, my money is on the latter.
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:34 PM
 
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Quebec will never separate. Period.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:05 AM
 
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Quebec will never separate. Period.
And you base that American viewpoint on what data?
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