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Old 08-03-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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Love how this turned into a debate about patriotism and sovereignty

Let's please join the rest of the World in Foreign owned markets. It's the basis of Liberty. I've had enough of the CRTC and Big Three's shenanigans.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:41 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Economic globalisation compromises the worker in the name of corporate profits. The only reason it continues on is by tricking and manipulating consumers into thinking that trans-national corporations are on their side.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:23 AM
 
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You know Fido is own by Rogers, right?
yes. Fido at that price, was even cheaper than Rogers.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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You've already said that you're not proud to be Canadian, so it doesn't surprise me that you would compromise our sovereignty just so you can save a few dollars.
having some global company operating in Canada has nothing to do with sovereignty. The New Yorkers didn't worry too much about American sovereignty when TD expanded aggressively and becomes one of the largest bank in NYC.

You want more sovereignty, that's easy. Forbid US troops from stationing on the Canadian soil. Stop supporting the US on the international arena in almost all matters. Stop selling all our oil to the US. Best of all, have the guts to provide asylum for Snowden, then I would be proud of Canada.

We don't have much sovereignty to compromise to start with.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:30 AM
 
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Economic globalisation compromises the worker in the name of corporate profits. The only reason it continues on is by tricking and manipulating consumers into thinking that trans-national corporations are on their side.
without globalisation, Canada wouldn't be able to sell tons of resources to other countries as well. It goes both ways. Do you think Canadians can maintaining our current living standards without being able to sell those?
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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having some global company operating in Canada has nothing to do with sovereignty. The New Yorkers didn't worry too much about American sovereignty when TD expanded aggressively and becomes one of the largest bank in NYC.

You want more sovereignty, that's easy. Forbid US troops from stationing on the Canadian soil. Stop supporting the US on the international arena in almost all matters. Stop selling all our oil to the US. Best of all, have the guts to provide asylum for Snowden, then I would be proud of Canada.

We don't have much sovereignty to compromise to start with.
No kidding. Let alone the whole reason a Canadian Federation was founded was a ground to stop American Expansionalism. And the American Civil War pretty much is what created Canada. Britain knew it would be annexed a few years after peace, after supporting the Confederates and fuelling their war machine.

The War of 1812 is nothing people should boast about(It was a stalemate anyways). Mid 19th Century United States could take Canada even without a war. British Generals knew this as did parliament. So they made Canada independent to prevent the mainland from being involved.

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Old 08-04-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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having some global company operating in Canada has nothing to do with sovereignty. The New Yorkers didn't worry too much about American sovereignty when TD expanded aggressively and becomes one of the largest bank in NYC.

You want more sovereignty, that's easy. Forbid US troops from stationing on the Canadian soil. Stop supporting the US on the international arena in almost all matters. Stop selling all our oil to the US. Best of all, have the guts to provide asylum for Snowden, then I would be proud of Canada.

We don't have much sovereignty to compromise to start with.
Botticelli, you're scaring me. That's twice now that I agree with you......
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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I am curious how much Canadians pay for cell service. I have Verizon Wireless in the US and I pay $80/month plus taxes.
$40 is for basic service( I get an employee discount from my job) and another $40 for smartphone line access( I have an IPhone) which includes unlimited talk and texting and 1 GB of data.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Botticelli, you're scaring me. That's twice now that I agree with you......
I know. I think I agree with him about half the time and every time I do, my brain gives a little shiver.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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I know. I think I agree with him about half the time and every time I do, my brain gives a little shiver.
Dang; I thought I was the only one that periodically got those shivers from boticelli!

He says what a lot of us think on SOME issues. Some others I find myself diametrically opposed but hey; it'd be a dull world if we all marched in one direction.
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