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Rather than deflect the importance of the issue and get all defensive and blame the rest of Canada for making a news story out of the issue and in some way ganging up on Quebec, would you care to defend the proposed legislation and tell us how this isnt a suspension of ones religious freedoms and how it benefits the people of Quebec.?
As long as Quebec remains a part of Canada it is incumbent on the province to exhibit those moral values that define Canada. this Charter of values doesnt IMO represent the many freedoms that come with the privilege of being a Canadian, to me this Charter has Xenophobic racism written all over it.
We're having a bloody debate! There are many views on this even within Quebec, so why the harsh judgement even before anything has been decided? That's the issue I have.
While Islam has religous elements, for the most it a political ideology like Communism or Fascism, and thus wearing the birqa is not a constitutional right. Wearing the niqab or birqa is NOT worn for religous reasons. Rather, it is worn as a political statement that Islam will dominate the entire world. It is an insult to Allah to have a country where even one Muslim lives that does not join the House of Islam and implement Sharia.
There are, all over Canada, communities of people whose cultural traditions include the wearing of certain clothing. When you see them shopping, you quickly recognize them by their clothing, and by a few other characteristics of their faith/culture, such as refusing to drive automobiles.
If you object to women wearing a burqa, you must also object to Amish, Mennonite, Dukhobor, and all the other sects wearing the traditional clothing in public that they are accustomed to wearing and feeling comfortable in. You must also seek laws that criminalize Jewish men who wear the kippah or yarmulka. since it is forced upon them against their will.
Oh, but wait, they're not Muslim, so it is OK for them.
We're having a bloody debate! There are many views on this even within Quebec, so why the harsh judgement even before anything has been decided? That's the issue I have.
Nothing harsh going on AJ, in the context of a previous post regarding burkas i brought up Quebecs proposed Charter of Values which you promptly said was just another attack on Quebec by Canadas media.
In post 16 i merely asked you to defend this piece of proposed Quebec legislation to show it was just ROC media attacking Quebec for no justifiable reason.
My personal views of this type of legislation is its racist,Xenophobic and shows major intolerance from those who would suggest such legislation, As Quebec is still a part of Canada this type of legislation reflects negatively on all Canadians and is thus worthy of a news story.
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The charter would ban Jewish, Muslim and Sikh head coverings, and other religious or cultural symbols, for workers in Quebec’s public sector/any Provincial government office: schools, Hospitals,daycares, drivers’ license examiners etc. Philosopher Charles Taylor
Nothing harsh going on AJ, in the context of a previous post regarding burkas i brought up Quebecs proposed Charter of Values which you promptly said was just another attack on Quebec by Canadas media.
In post 16 i merely asked you to defend Quebecs position on the issue as you seem to think if any one in the ROC has any comments on this proposed piece of legislation its by default an attack on Quebec
I said that Quebec even discussing the issue would lead to attacks and I was right it already has. But I don't see why this makes me have to defend anything in the PQ's position... which is not even clear at this point. Not that I am even a PQ supporter...
But I will defend is the fact that Quebec is allowed to have these debates without being unjustly attacked and judged before anything is decided.
If anything, in spite of the risks, it might be healthier to have a public discussion about these things instead of sweeping them under the carpet and letting them fester.
If anything, in spite of the risks, it might be healthier to have a public discussion about these things instead of sweeping them under the carpet and letting them fester.
Isnt discussing the issues what we are doing? you wont catch me sweeping human rights violations under the carpet..
What do you think will happen to the Quebec Charter of Values if left unreported and unchallenged,under the carpet so to speak?, i got a feeling it would pass into law,and Canada would be viewed as a country that supports this kind of ideology.
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The charter would ban Jewish, Muslim and Sikh head coverings, and other religious or cultural symbols, for workers in Quebec’s public sector/any Provincial government office: schools, Hospitals,daycares, drivers’ license examiners etc. Philosopher Charles Taylor
There are, all over Canada, communities of people whose cultural traditions include the wearing of certain clothing. When you see them shopping, you quickly recognize them by their clothing, and by a few other characteristics of their faith/culture, such as refusing to drive automobiles.
If you object to women wearing a burqa, you must also object to Amish, Mennonite, Dukhobor, and all the other sects wearing the traditional clothing in public that they are accustomed to wearing and feeling comfortable in. You must also seek laws that criminalize Jewish men who wear the kippah or yarmulka. since it is forced upon them against their will.
Oh, but wait, they're not Muslim, so it is OK for them.
There are, all over Canada, communities of people whose cultural traditions include the wearing of certain clothing. When you see them shopping, you quickly recognize them by their clothing, and by a few other characteristics of their faith/culture, such as refusing to drive automobiles.
If you object to women wearing a burqa, you must also object to Amish, Mennonite, Dukhobor, and all the other sects wearing the traditional clothing in public that they are accustomed to wearing and feeling comfortable in. You must also seek laws that criminalize Jewish men who wear the kippah or yarmulka. since it is forced upon them against their will.
Oh, but wait, they're not Muslim, so it is OK for them.
Banning the burqa is due to the face covering, not because they are worn by some Muslims or not. If they did not cover their face, I and most of us would be fine. See, we did not say ban the hijab (headscarf), only burqa (face covering).
I've gotta agree with jambo here. What's the deal with Quebec lately? Is this the beginning of the Final Purge or something?
Could very well be a ploy with the power hungry PQ knowingly overstepping its jurisdiction only to stir things up and have Ottawa interfere so they can yell '' murder '' and steer the electorate toward yet another referendum which is their ultimate goal no matter what the cost.
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