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Old 09-12-2013, 08:53 AM
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Well the French Canadians distrusted the British because they were British, but the American 13 colonies distrusted the French because they were Catholic. Ultimately the British won the stalemate by granting the French Canadians freedom to practice their Catholicism, and removed the requirement to pledge to Protestanism. With these new found freedoms, the French Canadians decided to remain neutral.

Anti-Catholicism was waning in Britain. The death of Charles Edward Stuart (Bonnie Prince Charlie) in 1788 meant that there was no more serious challenges to the Hanoverian throne. The Roman Catholic Relief Act 1791 which allowed Catholics to enter the legal profession, relieved them from taking the Oath of Supremacy and granted toleration for their schools and places of worship. The repeal of the penal laws culminated in the Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829.

Given the level of anti-Catholicism in the 13 colonies, it is surprising that France became an ally.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo View Post
During America's Revolutionary War, why did French Canadians sit on the sidelines, considering they were at war with Britain a few years previously?
Because the English government in the Quebec Act of 1774 wisely decided to restore the rights of the Catholic church and some of the other previous customs and rights the French population had had under the rule of France. While its limitations evidently diminished the enthusiasm of the common Frenchman, the French ruling class and the Catholic church were on the whole pleased enough at the time. In doing this, the government headed off the major reasons the French population would have had for rebellion; and though French discontent with the Quebec Act increased, they were not stupid enough to throw themselves into the arms of revolutionaries with decidedly anti-Catholic sentiments..

The colonists in the thirteen colonies to the south were vehemently anti-Catholic. The American high school textbook fiction of Maryland as a Catholic colony was long dead by 1776, having been thoroughly and forcible terminated in 1689. The thirteen American colonies went into paroxysms of fury when the Quebec Act, which restored religious rights to the Catholics in Canada, was enacted. Paul Revere was the creator of one of the widely circulated anti-Catholic, anti-Quebec Act propaganda cartoons. Besides their anti-Catholic sentiments, the American colonist connected the Quebec Act with various other acts that were passed in the same parliament to tax Americans, these taxes being connected to the very war which had gained Canada for the English and eliminated the French as a threat to the thirteen English colonies.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:37 AM
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...Given the level of anti-Catholicism in the 13 colonies, it is surprising that France became an ally.
Whatever the people may think, "princes" have their own interests.

During the wars following the Reformation things became so confused that Catholic countries were sometimes fighting on a side considered to be Protestant, and vice versa.

In our own times the U.S. government has routinely supported dictatorships in the Caribbean, Central and South America, while styling itself the foremost promoter of democracy. And at present it supports various Arab absolute monarchies whose populations have strong anti-American elements. I can only think that in the past religion proved as inconvenient an ideal as democracy sometimes does today.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:46 AM
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No offense, MOS, but you're a deeply religious cracker. Some people take that ball and run with it. Fair or not, the dinosaur denier label is one that is frequently slapped on folks like you by those who don't share your beliefs.

They used to believe the dinousaurs were planted by evil people to disrupt the faith of Christians. Since they couldn't win that one, they now believe the dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark cause the earth we know is only 6,000 yrs old. Can't win with these people. Just remember most of them are in the US South. The rest of us just scoff at them.
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