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Old 08-11-2014, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Stuff people said on the Internet, of course. Are you implying that it's not reliable?

 
Old 08-11-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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Here's what I want to know. In Canadian socialism, in which there are (presumably) no private enterprises and all means of production are owned by the state, which authors get the most emphasis in your political indoctrination in school? Marx would be a natural. Engels? Lenin? Heck, Shulamith Firestone? I never see any Lenin statues in BC, but I assume that's because they get covered up so that they don't scare off the combustible US tourist dollars.

Also, I'm mystified by an aspect of your history. You managed to get through the dictatorship of the proletariat without me noticing. Were you just doing it in an unassuming, non-demonstrative way? If so, how did you get the Francophones on board? Or was it in fact their idea to begin with? Is that what is meant by la Révolution tranquille, and we just weren't paying attention? I need to get out more.
Dang; there goes yet another keyboard!
 
Old 08-14-2014, 10:56 PM
 
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Great find, thanks for posting that. This quote is my exact point:


Vancouver resident Caitlin Mayne, comparing prices for a new Volkswagen Beetle, found that the car’s MSRP was about $3,000 less in the U.S., only an hour’s drive from her home. “That’s a lot of money,” she told Marketplace co-host Erica Johnson.
In one case Marketplace found a Dodge Grand Caravan listed at an MSRP that was approximately $7,000 cheaper in the U.S. than on Canadian lots




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A CBC Marketplace investigation reveals automakers are preventing Canadians from taking advantage of cheaper car prices south of the border.
Marketplace found price differences of thousands of dollars in the manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) for the same model car on different sides of the border, but many U.S. dealers refuse to sell a new vehicle to Canadian customers.

Canadian car buyers blocked from cheaper U.S. prices - Business - CBC News
 
Old 08-14-2014, 10:58 PM
 
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There's a net zero loss in revenue as any taxes that were going to be charged on the vehicle are still charged when they cross the border.

Vehicles are prepared and optioned differently between Canada and the U.S. on a regular basis. So you may not be doing an apple to apples comparison between two vehicles.

And yes, Sophia has a troll for a Mommy.
Troll as defined by Mikey: "Anyone that has an opinion that differs from my own." Mikey quickly sticks fingers in ears and loudly screams, "lalala, I can't hear you......lalalala
 
Old 08-15-2014, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Great find, thanks for posting that. This quote is my exact point:


Vancouver resident Caitlin Mayne, comparing prices for a new Volkswagen Beetle, found that the car’s MSRP was about $3,000 less in the U.S., only an hour’s drive from her home. “That’s a lot of money,” she told Marketplace co-host Erica Johnson.
In one case Marketplace found a Dodge Grand Caravan listed at an MSRP that was approximately $7,000 cheaper in the U.S. than on Canadian lots
And this had to do with socialism (or quasi-socialism) how? Seems to me that VW and Dodge set their prices; and so any revenues and profits in this scenario are going to VW and Dodge, not any government.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 07:02 AM
 
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Markets for vehicles have different country pricing. It has more to do with the automakers protecting their profits in the respective country. Take it up with Lexus Canada.

No, Canada is not more expensive due to "socialism." Canada is far from socialist. Canada is more expensive due to a smaller market. If the population and local economies were as vast and diverse as the U.S., the prices would come down.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Comparing a cars cost from Canada and the U.S. will have U.S. as a winner!! But, overall cost of living comes down to whether you have kids or not.
Does it cost more to live in Canada or the U.S.? Depends if you have kids - The Globe and Mail
Seems if you have kids that need healthcare and an education Canada is your better bet. But, if you plan on childless living America would be the cheapest to live.
Factoring in more than your car would give you real numbers. Also, this greatly depends on how healthy you are throughout your life, and if you go for a high cost degree.
Overall it evens out with America having a slight edge for a healthy adult without children, and Canada having a slight edge for an adult (sickly or not) having children.

This of course also varies on location in both Canada and the U.S.
Comparing Ottawa to Detroit or Ohio and Toronto to NYC or San Francisco is more comparable.

But if you like the feeling of struggling for your needs instead of social security then by all means the vibe in America would be better for you. Nothing like the feeling of wondering if you can afford to take your child to the doctor or not, if you should go on welfare or just keep plugging away at a job with no benefits and low wages. Hoping your kid pulls off a scholarship of some sort so they can get an education. The biggest difference is the feeling you get from each country. Unity or individualism. Americans are taught from birth that it's eat or be eaten. While exhilarating it can be scary to a foreigner from a place like Canada where they just worry about affordability of a nice car or home. It would take some serious thought. If you decide America is for you we will welcome you to come on over and join the struggle. You can get a cheaper car and pay less for a pair of jeans. It's awesome!!

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Old 08-15-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: NJ = liberalism is a mental disorder!
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Potentially there's a way around purchasing a new car in the US by Canadians "IF" they pay in full and they have friends or relatives residing in the US to be the first one titled to then transfer it to the new Canadian owner. Unless there's some law someplace prohibiting such?
 
Old 08-15-2014, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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And this had to do with socialism (or quasi-socialism) how? Seems to me that VW and Dodge set their prices; and so any revenues and profits in this scenario are going to VW and Dodge, not any government.
If anything, this points to Canada NOT being socialist. A socialist country would cap the price at which cars can be sold... just like the USA did with gasoline after the oil crisis. This turned out to be a socialist disaster because supply did not meet demand, and thus gas stations ran out of gas. If the free market was allowed to set the price like it was in Canada, the gas wouldn't have run out like that.
 
Old 08-20-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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If anything, this points to Canada NOT being socialist. A socialist country would cap the price at which cars can be sold... just like the USA did with gasoline after the oil crisis. This turned out to be a socialist disaster because supply did not meet demand, and thus gas stations ran out of gas. If the free market was allowed to set the price like it was in Canada, the gas wouldn't have run out like that.
Of course in a capitalist system the people who can't afford it will still be locked out of getting it.
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