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Old 08-20-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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Of course in a capitalist system the people who can't afford it will still be locked out of getting it.
"Locked" as in prevented through a deliberate action taken by an entity or person. OR did you actually intend your statement to simply say those who can't afford it, will still not be able to buy it. Sheesh.

 
Old 08-20-2014, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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I'm much rather live in a country like Canada where the market sets the price of oil and gas than in a country like Venezuela where the government sets the price.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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I'm much rather live in a country like Canada where the market sets the price of oil and gas than in a country like Venezuela where the government sets the price.
You think the market sets the price?

1/3 of gas price is taxes - which is determined by the government.

In 2012, Canadians paid an average of 40 cents of tax on every litre of gasoline. For cities such as Vancouver and Montreal it is even higher due to municipal levy.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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You think the market sets the price?

1/3 of gas price is taxes - which is determined by the government.

In 2012, Canadians paid an average of 40 cents of tax on every litre of gasoline. For cities such as Vancouver and Montreal it is even higher due to municipal levy.
Obviously taxes are inevitable, though your numbers are not quite accurate. It's more like 25% at the current 135.9 cents/litre. Taxes are one of many costs taken into account when the free market sets the price.
 
Old 01-29-2015, 11:29 PM
 
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Sounds like a lot of bitterness on this topic. Listen, let's stick to the facts without convolution of politically impassioned opinions that could discredit valuable common sense information.

It is no secret that Canada has a higher cost-of-living than The USA. Ontario has been seemingly desperately flooding USA markets with TV commercials touting their new lower business tax structure and better tax incentives if our companies relocate there. This is due to several common sense factors of economics...

1) Canada has a much smaller marketshare. There is less demand and therefore higher cost. The USA has higher demand and competition with lower taxes which equals cheaper prices.

2) It doesn't help that sales taxes (PST + GST or HST) and income taxes are quite high in nearly every province. In fact, sales taxes are generally 3 times higher than The USA who has no Federal sales tax, 5 states with no sales tax with several strategically positioned on your border, and 7 with no income tax.

3) Competition...Canada is not as competitive as The USA's marketplace and financial structures. This explains why the nation is almost constantly revamping its immigration policies in order to attract higher wage earners. Canada is vulnerable when it comes to attracting this sector of the job market as many immigrants use Canada as a stepping stone to The USA whose immigration process is much tougher and expensive.

4) Specifically speaking, there's been a job drain in Ontario due to more affordable standards of living and quality of life in Western provinces causing lost revenue for the province. Ontario has lost 137,000 residents to Western Provinces since 2012. So serious is this that Ontario's government has been scrambling to find viable solutions in order to avoid a potential economic decline.

5) Nationwide, Canada's housing costs are generally higher than The USA because your neighbor to the south is able to appeal to your market with less expensively produced and shipped materials. In order to meet the high cost-of-living, second and third party Canadian dealers must inflate prices of inexpensively purchased American products.

6) Canada slaps a hefty import tax on many items either much higher than The USA or on goods The USA doesn't tax in order to directly support socialist government policies. I'm an American who has lived in Montréal and Vancouver and I couldn't believe the cost-of-living for what I considered to be equal or less value than in The USA. Canada has instituted a more Western European style financial system which is less competitive overall. Did you know that before your orange juice is stocked on your shelves it has already been taxed 5% to 15% just to enter your country? Americans would consider this double taxation and would have a fit with policy makers.

7) Canada's economy is less diverse than The USA. It relies heavily on natural resource mining. Unfortunately, when there's less world demand for those items the entire economy suffers as is the current situation in Australia, whose economy is entering a bust cycle because a large share of their market relied too heavily on selling mined gods to China whose economy has slowed by a whopping 7%. Conversely, Canadians should expect to see a reduction in prices if she enters her own bust cycle. N.B. The steal to make your Lexus SUV is produced in The USA and therefore faces large import fees. This is cheaper than producing it in Canada.

8) Ontario's tax incentives to international companies may bring companies to your province to create more jobs but those incentives are only temporary and focus primarily on start-up companies so those companies will continue to charge the going rate for their products and services in your area because they look to the future when they'll suddenly have pay high taxes and because, well, they can.

My knowledge comes from copious amounts of research as a city planner. Well that's all I can think of. I hope my explanations were clear as I was sleepy. I would encourage dissatisfied persons to effect change in your communities by contacting your representatives and your version of the Better Business Bureau and your tax offices or your consumer affairs offices. Good luck. Once you vote for a tax it's very hard to get rid of it.

SIDENOTE: I was surprised to read The World Environmental Conference's 2014 report that Canada came in dead last out of 193 nations in its efforts to reduce green house gases due to a massive increase in mining and producing natural resources; in particular, fossil fuels that contribute to greenhouse gases.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 01:37 AM
 
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SIDENOTE: I was surprised to read The World Environmental Conference's 2014 report that Canada came in dead last out of 193 nations in its efforts to reduce green house gases due to a massive increase in mining and producing natural resources; in particular, fossil fuels that contribute to greenhouse gases.
Just for clarification - It wasn't 193 nations, it was 61 nations. It was the Climate Change Performance Index report that was presented at the above noted conference regarding the 61 most industrialized nations who produce 90% of global GHG's. But you're right that Canada came in near the last at number 58, with Kazakhstan at 59, Australia at 60 and Saudi Arabia at 61. (USA was 44, China was 45, India was 31, Indonesia was 23, Mexico was 18). All of Europe's countries that were ranked were less than Mexico's ranking.

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Old 02-26-2015, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Just for clarification - It wasn't 193 nations, it was 61 nations. It was the Climate Change Performance Index report that was presented at the above noted conference regarding the 61 most industrialized nations who produce 90% of global GHG's. But you're right that Canada came in near the last at number 58, with Kazakhstan at 59, Australia at 60 and Saudi Arabia at 61. (USA was 44, China was 45, India was 31, Indonesia was 23, Mexico was 18). All of Europe's countries that were ranked were less than Mexico's ranking.

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I don't find that surprising. 1) It's flippin' cold. Takes energy to make the place livable for nine months of the year. 2) Huge land mass, small population. It takes a lot of energy to get anything to market/move. 3) Canada is an energy exporting nation. No different than Saudi. Canada doesn't pollute like the other nations, it just enables the other nations to do it.
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