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Old 09-13-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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Who is to decide what is a religious symbol and what is a cultural symbol?
Madame Marois obviously doesnt seem to have a problem making that call.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Madame Marois obviously doesnt seem to have a problem making that call.
I see your point. This Charter of Values is quite lame. You would ban a Sikh from wearing a turban because you consider it an "overt and conspicuous" religious symbol. But what if a Christian or a Jew decides to wear a turban just because he or she thinks that it looks good. Then what do you do? You cant ban it since it is no longer a religious symbol and does not meet your criteria in the Charter - it is just a "hat" or piece of clothing.

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Old 09-13-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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I see your point. This Charter of Values is quite lame. You would ban a Sikh from wearing a turban because you consider it an "overt and conspicuous" religious symbol. But what if a Christian or a Jew decides to wear a turban just because he or she thinks that it looks good. Then what do you do? You cant ban it since it is no longer a religious symbol and does not meet your criteria in the Charter - it is just a "hat" or piece of clothing.
i'd imagine If they are employees in the public sector they will be asked to remove the offending piece of clothing immediately, if they refuse they're fired. As the proposed law is worded its just about the clothing and wink wink nudge nudge not about the religion per se.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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As the proposed law is worded its just about the clothing and wink wink nudge nudge not about the religion per se.
Really?!? I am confused already. I thought the law was all about religion (and religious symbols) and states it clearly: "The proposal would ban “overt and conspicuous” religious symbols by government employees"


How can you ban offensive clothing? A turban worn by a Christian as an accessory is offensive to who? How is that any different from someone wearing a baseball cap with the NY Yankees inscription - that is offensive to MANY as well!
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:33 PM
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The fact that anyone would support this kind of blatant racism being enforced by the government makes me want to vomit. This is not the Canada I know.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:35 PM
 
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Sandman You are missing the point of the Charters main objective which is to rid Quebec of visible minorities, the Charter cant very well come out and say its illegal for Jews,Sikhs and Muslims to work in Quebecs public sector so by banning the attire these people wear its achieving the same objective but coming at it trough the back door so to speak.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:38 PM
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Sandman You are missing the point of the Charters main objective which is to rid Quebec of visible minorities, the Charter cant very well come out and say its illegal for Jews,Sikhs and Muslims to work in Quebecs public sector so by banning the attire these people wear its achieving the same objective but coming at it trough the back door so to speak.
Exactly. People can pretend that their not racist, but by supporting this kind of attack on religious groups, their true side is shown.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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The picture I posted above shows that small crosses are allowed but larger ones are banned! This is just ridiculous. What size cross around the neck is okay? Will they post the dimensions as well?
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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The picture I posted above shows that small crosses are allowed but larger ones are banned! This is just ridiculous. What size cross around the neck is okay? Will they post the dimensions as well?
That call will be left to the discretion of the religion police, suffice it to say anything that is overt will be illegal..
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:30 PM
 
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All of this is issuing forth from the single most overtly bigoted section of populace within Canada and can trace it's outward display genesis back to Parizeau and his "les ethnics".

Giving these types of political panderer's any credibility at all is simply enabling them to further their prejudicial behaviour.

Hard-done-by separtatists all moaning into their morning corn flakes "no one pays any attention to us" have wrought this upon themselves by electing these retarded cretins. Now they're being observed for all the wrong reasons; serves them right.

The fallout is only just beginning. Immigrants of all stripes are going to turn up the heat and some of them have been there longer than the supposed pur laine!
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