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Old 09-24-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I don't think you are qualified to speak on behalf of immigrant children born in QC during the 70's, unless you are one yourself. .
And you are qualified, as an American? You don't know much about my background other than what I have said here, so how can you judge anyway?
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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Aha! Gotcha Mr. Tolerance! Tolerance is only good for moralizing Quebec, right? And then, unexpectedly, the truth slips out!

Yes, it is reality. Some ethnicities are too different to co-exist with the Quebecois. Especially, when they are told to remove their religious attire. What is your version of reality? Telling someone they can't be themselves from 8 am to 4:30 pm?
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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And you are qualified, as an American? You don't know much about my background other than what I have said here, so how can you judge anyway?
Well, I take your comments as "real". What else could you be? I speak from my experiences of my life married to a woman of European descent. When you marry someone, you become part of their family. It doesn't matter if I am American (as you always like to point out). I have listened and lived through situations that they have had to overcome. Like when people of her father's age were beaten in Parc Lafontaine for being European immigrants in the 60's. All you can speak of is your Quebecois outlook. Which is pretty ethnocentric, if you even want to call Quebecois an ethnicity.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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I am not speaking on behalf of anyone, I am only repeating what I have often heard in personal conversations and in the media.

It often goes like this: "My parents thought it really sucked and would have preferred us to go to English school, and so did I for most of my schooling. Which I why I high-tailed it to English CEGEP and McGill as soon as I was able to do so. But in retrospect, as much as I hate to admit it the PQ really did me a favour and looking back I wouldn't have nearly the levels I have in French today had I gone to English schools. I probably wouldn't speak much at all - certainly not with as much ease."
Exactly, they go to the English Universities and then hope they get a work visa to the US. The reality is, the languages of business are English and Mandarin. If you want to succeed, that is what you need. Bilingualism in Canada is a complete waste of time, money and resources and it's time to get rid of it.
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Exactly, they go to the English Universities and then hope they get a work visa to the US. The reality is, the languages of business are English and Mandarin. If you want to succeed, that is what you need. Bilingualism in Canada is a complete waste of time, money and resources and it's time to get rid of it.
Funny guy. Next thing you are going to tell us is that an anglo in Montreal is better off learning Mandarin than French!

90-95% of jobs in this world are local, BTW.

But I must say you really do rattle off the angry uncle clichés very impressively.
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:00 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Funny how you guys rarely give the same consideration to French, which is part of the "society and culture" of many other parts of Canada just as English is in Quebec.
Other people can speak for themselves. I have always considered French to be part of the culture of nearly all of Canada's provinces.

Quebon is clearly a troll, so I don't understand why we're arguing with him.
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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Funny guy. Next thing you are going to tell us is that an anglo in Montreal is better off learning Mandarin than French!

90-95% of jobs in this world are local, BTW.

But I must say you really do rattle off the angry uncle clichés very impressively.
Worthless jobs. What job do you have? You seem to know everything related to your city and world. On the mb 24/7. I am on vacation. What is your excuse? You should concern yourself with your doctors and nurses leaving because of language issues. How citizens that don't speak French are left to die because when they dial 911 and the retard French operator on the other end starts a language debate. Where is your bilingualism job requirement there? Only when it suits you. I see.
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:07 PM
 
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Other people can speak for themselves. I have always considered French to be part of the culture of nearly all of Canada's provinces.

Quebon is clearly a troll, so I don't understand why we're arguing with him.
Yes, I am sure you do. Because from your posts, it sounds like you have lived everywhere in Canada, in every town, every city, and your job now is Head of the language census data department of the country.
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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[quote=pdw;31538402]Other people can speak for themselves. I have always
considered French to be part of the culture of nearly all of Canada's provinces.[quote=pdw;31538402]

I know you do.


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Quebon is clearly a troll, so I don't understand why we're arguing with him.
Good advice.
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Old 09-24-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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Yes, good advice. You clearly have nothing to say about the non-bilingual 911 operator or the dumb Quebecois holding up that stupid sign with her purple hair at 70. This thread is here to discuss and come up with explanations as to why the QC Charter was even brought into existence. Enough citizens support it to make it reality. The reality is out there on the streets and not in how many French speaking immigrants kids swim in your pool in the summer. It is about how the government is stripping them of their religious freedoms. You quickly call someone a troll when you have nothing to add, other than your useless percentages that you Google. You say you want respect from the immigrants, this is not the way to get their respect. They think of you as a "sale race". Oh and for those that don't read French, "sale" means "dirty" in this context.
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