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Old 09-23-2013, 10:01 PM
 
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crossed a yellow light with about 50 km speed in a 40km zone. officer pulled me over and issued a red light ticket (270$). I told him I didn't cross red light but he said here take your ticket..
If you were me would you pay the ticket or fight it?
sometimes its not safe to stop at yellow light.. especially when it turns yellow right when you enter the intersection.. am I suppose to nail my breaks next time? If this happens again how do I convince the office I didn't cross the red light?
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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If you go to traffic court (a year from now? what city were you in?) here is a small chance the officer won't show up and you'll be let off. If he does show up the judge will undoubtedly side with the officer's testimony that you entered on a red not on a yellow. Sounds like you sped up to beat the light.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I don't know if this is provincial or not but here if you get some sort of ticket and dispute it, it usually never gets to court. Just by disputing it, at the place you go to pay it, it is apparently standard practise here, due to over-crowded courts, to halve the fine. You don't necessarily have to be able to prove anything.

I don't know this from my own experience, but that of friends and relatives who had large fines halved. I guess you are still pleading guilty though but 'with an explanation.'

If you feel it was a yellow light, then I would certainly explain that and see where it goes. Police do make mistakes sometimes. If I knew I was guilty of what I was charged with, it's not in my personality to evade responsibility even if it might be possible. I would simply pay it in that event.
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Old 09-24-2013, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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crossed a yellow light with about 50 km speed in a 40km zone. officer pulled me over and issued a red light ticket (270$). I told him I didn't cross red light but he said here take your ticket..
If you were me would you pay the ticket or fight it?
sometimes its not safe to stop at yellow light.. especially when it turns yellow right when you enter the intersection.. am I suppose to nail my breaks next time? If this happens again how do I convince the office I didn't cross the red light?
I know someone who used the same argument in traffic court. "It wasn't safe to stop at the yellow light".
The judge said that if it wasn't safe, then he was going too fast. He lost.
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Old 09-24-2013, 04:24 AM
 
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Well, don't argue roadside, or you will be guaranteed to get the ticket. Officers do not argue roadside, that's how fights happen, it's considered dangerous and isn't going to work. If you think he was wrong, dispute it, and hope he doesn't show up.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:07 AM
 
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crossed a yellow light with about 50 km speed in a 40km zone. officer pulled me over and issued a red light ticket (270$). I told him I didn't cross red light but he said here take your ticket..
If you were me would you pay the ticket or fight it?
sometimes its not safe to stop at yellow light.. especially when it turns yellow right when you enter the intersection.. am I suppose to nail my breaks next time? If this happens again how do I convince the office I didn't cross the red light?

Maybe the cop was looking at the light at the other side of the intersection and figured if the far light turns red while you are traversing the intersection then while the light may have been orange when you entered the intersection it was red when you exited thus the going throught a red light call ,if you have the time you could fight it but ni guarantees of success, as for the i couldnt stop for fear of being rear ended defense? its lame,dont use it
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Fight the ticket absolutely for sure. A conviction probably means points and you will pay higher insurance for 3 years.
I would fight it myself but there are plenty of outfits like POINTS that will fight it for you.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:51 AM
 
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I don't know if this is provincial or not but here if you get some sort of ticket and dispute it, it usually never gets to court. Just by disputing it, at the place you go to pay it, it is apparently standard practise here, due to over-crowded courts, to halve the fine. You don't necessarily have to be able to prove anything.

I don't know this from my own experience, but that of friends and relatives who had large fines halved. I guess you are still pleading guilty though but 'with an explanation.'
That's definitely not the case here in Quebec -- it takes a while but everybody eventually gets a court hearing.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Do you deserve the ticket? Yes. If you entered the intersection on yellow, you're guilty. Yellow is for people who entered on green to clear the intersection.

Can you fight it and have it reduced/dismissed? Yes.

Usually, at least in Alberta, Traffic court has a mediator before the actual trial to try to come to resolution, usually that means dropping the points off, and just paying the fine. If you take it to actual trial, the officer may or may not be there, but they get paid overtime to be there, so...
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Canada
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That's definitely not the case here in Quebec -- it takes a while but everybody eventually gets a court hearing.
I'll try and see later if there is anything online about this here. I've had a sister, BIL, and my hubby (twice) all of whom had their fines halved. I don't remember all the individual circumstances except one was out and out speeding, and another was for going through a 60 km while passing workers at more or less regular highway speed.

I just find it interesting that there are these differences.
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