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Old 05-01-2019, 07:59 PM
 
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Articles written or supported by the Catholic Church should be the very last considered opinion on this topic. They don't have the currency to discuss peoples rights to make decisions about their own welfare.

They've literally spent centuries perfecting the art of denying people any aspect of self determination.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:04 AM
 
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I'm opposed to all things that cause death. Death penalty, war, euthanasia and everything else. There is no greater good when it comes to death. You can't recover from death. That's how I see things.
You've obviously never had to experience agonizing pain for any length of time or had to deal with a loved one in agony 24/7.
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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BC is a different country as far as I'm concerned! They can do whatever they want!
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:21 AM
 
Location: OK
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Quite frankly, if somebody wants to end their life for whatever reason it should be that person's decision. Nobody elses, especially not the government.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: OK
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Articles written or supported by the Catholic Church should be the very last considered opinion on this topic.
That shouldn't even be considered at all.
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Old 06-18-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...l-and-harvest/
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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MOS,

You should know better. A right wing trash rag isn't going to exactly be a convincing argument to anyone here.

Also it's not euthanasia. It's right to die. The only person choosing to die is the sick person. Not the state, not their family, not anyone else. It's about personal choice, freedom, and the ability to die with dignity.
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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That rag even went further into the twilight zone of falsehood by the stupid writer suggesting keeping the body's blood oxygenated and circulated to sustain organ viability was the same thing as resuscitating the dead back to life.

One pertinent part left out was that any organ donation or "harvesting" would only be done at the behest of the patient.

So, to summarize; patient "X" diagnosed with early onset but still lucid, in full possession of their faculties and able to function completely normal, draws up a living will stating that when his disease progresses to the point he's got no recollection of family and friends, is perhaps bedridden and totally dependent upon nursing assistance, his family, upon consult with physician to verify state of disease, is to at that point progress with a determination of assisted death by medical professional.

Let's go further, patient "X" through discussion with specialists, decides his brain would be useful for studying the disease, his organs unaffected by this disease would be allotted to people on a waiting list for such items, …….. maybe lives are saved or improved through his largesse … but

To date, the various governments have not committed to supporting legislation making the patients desire a fixed reality. To date, regardless of his living will stating irrevocably his wishes of a death with dignity, governments are reluctant to support family members or executors who are faced with the unpleasant chore of carrying out patient "X",s wishes should his debilitation be one of gradual loss of faculty.

Should the spouse, immediate family or executors not have the stomach to proceed with patient "X',s expressed, clearly enumerated and documented wishes, … there is no facility to compel the various entities to honour them or to step in and proceed in spite of their failure.

It's all a cluster-fugg of epic proportions with any number of organizations attempting to lobby the various government agencies to address this conundrum.

I have a friend, a former Royal Military College graduate, certified multi-engine pilot and retired teacher who has become an activist in this regard after being diagnosed 3 years ago with early onset...he speaks at engagements set up to inform and educate about this situation.

He is adamant that his death will have dignity and "legally" happen long before he is reduced to an empty vessel.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:16 AM
 
Location: British Columbia ♥ 🍁 ♥
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What a revolting article by an incredibly stupid writer. It sure sucks up to the "stupid crowd".

Want to know how to lose patient and tolerant friends in Canada really fast ? Post more of that kind of hypocritical control freak garbage and disgusting sensationalist lies.

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Old 06-19-2019, 01:20 AM
 
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To me, it seems like a giant step backwards going from ending the death penalty to allowing this. Let's hope that this doesn't spread to the rest of the country.
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