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Old 10-19-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't remember Harper and the Conservatives running on a platform to implement a free trade deal with the European Union. If they did, it sure wasn't mentioned too loudly.
Any thoughts?

 
Old 10-19-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: British Columbia ♥ 🍁 ♥
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I don't think the conservatives or any other party ran on a platform to implement a free trade deal with the European Union but I don't have a problem with it. I think it's a great idea.

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Old 10-19-2013, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I have a problem when governments try to impose something on us that has not been voted on. I don't care if it's a policy of providing fresh daisies to war widows.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 02:27 AM
 
Location: British Columbia ♥ 🍁 ♥
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I have a problem when governments try to impose something on us that has not been voted on. I don't care if it's a policy of providing fresh daisies to war widows.

Each to their own way of thinking. If your way was the way of things I guess you'd have to be getting involved in government and voting on something pretty much every day instead of letting governments do the jobs the people elected them to do. What else do you think governments are there for if not to make important governing decisions on behalf of the nation without having to be constantly having elections or consulting about things with the citizens that elected them to govern the country and do the decision making?

So, whether you voted for it or not, what's your objection to a free trade deal with the European Union? Are you unhappy about it only because you weren't consulted about it first nor asked to vote on it?

I'm not unhappy with our government and by comparison with the governments of several other countries I think Canada's government is doing a successful enough job and has gained a lot of international respect. I pay taxes to support my government and I vote in elections so that I will have a government doing the job of making decisions, governing the country and representing me democratically and properly so that I don't have to do the job. If they don't do a good enough job then next election I vote for somebody else. That's the way it goes.

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Old 10-20-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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Totally agree with Zoisite.

If the government needs as many number of years on any policy as it takes for Toronto to make a decision on a subway plan, the country can't go anywhere. Democracy doesn't mean constant debate and multiple vote on every single item.

I am very happy with what the federal government has been doing in the past few years. This agreement is another reason I will keep voting for it next time. Anything against this agreement must be selfishly defending their own protected personal tiny interest rather than the country's future. I don't care if the dairy farmers lose - they are being protected enough at the cost of all consumers for years.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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I have a problem when governments try to impose something on us that has not been voted on. I don't care if it's a policy of providing fresh daisies to war widows.
Uuuh what you're talking about is running the country like a Union meeting where once a month the membership assembles to have "past items" dealt with then moves onto "new business".


You going to try to run a country like that? Seriously?

All other countries are negotiating free trade and preferential status agreements as we're discussing this. The financial maneuvering to maintain and stimulate growth has to be ongoing or you get left behind. Surely this is readily apparent to every person with any awareness now.

We've been attacked by an economic tsunami from across the pond and to respond effectively we need to get organized yesterday, but we'll wait for the next election to see which party will formulate the best plan; yep, that oughtta work out just fine.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Zoisite View Post
Each to their own way of thinking. If your way was the way of things I guess you'd have to be getting involved in government and voting on something pretty much every day instead of letting governments do the jobs the people elected them to do. What else do you think governments are there for if not to make important governing decisions on behalf of the nation without having to be constantly having elections or consulting about things with the citizens that elected them to govern the country and do the decision making?

So, whether you voted for it or not, what's your objection to a free trade deal with the European Union? Are you unhappy about it only because you weren't consulted about it first nor asked to vote on it?

I'm not unhappy with our government and by comparison with the governments of several other countries I think Canada's government is doing a successful enough job and has gained a lot of international respect. I pay taxes to support my government and I vote in elections so that I will have a government doing the job of making decisions, governing the country and representing me democratically and properly so that I don't have to do the job. If they don't do a good enough job then next election I vote for somebody else. That's the way it goes.

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Old 10-20-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I think it is a great Idea, I hope the agreement is implemented quickly.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I probably won't vote for the Conservatives, but I'm in favour of this deal and think they did a good job on this one (^_^)d. It was a mixed bag, but on the whole I think they negociated us a fair deal.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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This isn't going to further dismantle my city like NAFTA did, will it?
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