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How are the voip-based lines factored into those stats, heh?
They are considered "land lines" but in the same time more mobile and flexible - using the power of Internet instead of dedicated copper wire loops to the closest central office.
Also, the fact that the mobile carriers in Canada are much of an oligopoly and not too much competition on the market price-wise, is a factor.
I can't find any hard statistics, but everything I read says TELCO's are getting out of DSL business. They are turning it over to cable companies.
I suspect that it is simply that the price is still lower in Canada for international calls.
In Mexico the mobile phone has become king in the last 13 years. Worldwide, the number of mobile subscriptions is passing the entire population of the world (including children).
Mexico only circulates the equivalent of US$500 per person in currency and coin. It is very difficult to get change outside of major places of business, because people open up in the morning with only a few dollars in their cash machine. Surprisingly Mexico would benefit from electronic currency transferred via cell phone much more than US or Canada.
Value of currency and coin (per capita) expressed in US dollars
$8,947 Japan
$7,878 Switzerland
$4,897 Hong Kong
$4,063 Singapore
$3,452 USA
$2,710 Australia
$2,056 Denmark
$1,897 Canada
$1,771 Norway
$1,527 Sweden
$1,499 Russia
$1,448 United Kingdom
$1,313 Saudi
$845 Korea
$502 Mexico
$445 Brazil
$394 Turkey
$268 South Africa
$167 India
- source Sweden's Riksbank study for 2011 of how people make payments.
The statistic for USA does not come as a big shock as it is known that USA is circulating a trillion dollars in c-notes (75% overseas). But many Canadians are surprised to know that their government is still circulating ten $100 banknotes for every man woman and child in the country.
Not included in the above study was the Euro Zone which is over US$4000 per capita.
Since this study was done, Sweden has destroyed most of their 1000 kroner banknotes, as part of their drive to eliminate most uses of currency and their figure is now below Saudi Arabia.
Where did you read that? I used to work for a telco and if anything they are moving more and more to fibre,(in larger centres ) but they aren't handing ANYTHING over to the competition. That just doesn't make sense. (also cable doesn't use DSL, so if you're implying that telco's are handing over internet service to cable companies, then you are just plain wrong ) Service offerings, the line between cable companies and telco's has been blurred since cable offers VOIP and telco's offer cable like service with products like Telus's OPTIK TV which is delivered over DSL and fibre in some cases.
I was talking about the USA. Perhaps the situtation is different in Canada
I should have said wired lines.
But there are different kinds of VOIP. My cable company has VOIP, but it's not the same VOIP if you were buying Vonage. They have a dedicated network.
Yes, the situation it very different in Canada. Some of their tactics sounds like it would go against the regulations here mandated by the CRTC.
For example, incumbent Telco's by law have to provide certain services in certain areas, especially in areas where they are they only choice, mainly rural. So they just can't abandon customers in a lot of cases.
My comment about VOIP was not to you but in answer to this
"Originally Posted by smihaila View Post
How are the voip-based lines factored into those stats, heh?
They are considered "land lines" but in the same time more mobile and flexible - using the power of Internet instead of dedicated copper wire loops to the closest central office."
Voice Over Internet Protocol is Voice Over Internet Protocol no matter how you slice it. Different companies just offer different hardware in using it.
Neither do !! I don't want to be available to everyone, all the time. I used to have a cell phone, and kept hearing "Why didn't you pick up?? Why have a cell if you don't pick up??"
Maybe I didn't feel like talking to you.
Besides, they're addicting as hell. I know folks who lost theirs and went into withdrawal.
I was at the Jazz Fest the other day, and everyone was busy recording the shows on their cells. Nobody actually watched the show. Nobody enjoyed being in the moment. Everyone scrambling to get a better shot.
It was kind of sad.
I have no landline and haven't for a while now. With that being said, I get solid cell reception at my home so I have no need for one. Unlimited calling anywhere in Canada (versus landlines around here only offering local calls). I can take my phone (and number) anywhere I go, as well as SMS and data. No need for a landline in my situation - of course others have their reasons for having one and that's completely reasonable.
"Originally Posted by smihaila
How are the voip-based lines factored into those stats, heh?
They are considered "land lines" but in the same time more mobile and flexible - using the power of Internet instead of dedicated copper wire loops to the closest central office."
Voice Over Internet Protocol is Voice Over Internet Protocol no matter how you slice it. Different companies just offer different hardware in using it.
I did find one reference.
US wireline
2010 149,652,000
2011 143,319,000
....
2012 138,072,000
2013 135,141,000
In June 2012, there were
102 million end-user switched access lines in service, +
39 million interconnected VoIP subscriptions, = 141 million wireline retail local telephone service connections
Of the 141 million there were 81 million residential connections and 60 million were business connections.
Breaking down the 102 million end-user switched access lines in service by technology
ILEC== incumbent local exchange carriers
FTTP == Fiber to the Premises : A network access architecture in which optical fiber is deployed all the way to the customer’s premises (home).
Terrestrial Fixed Wireless == Exactly like Cell phone but not mobile.
Some parts of Canada have crappy cell reception..
AND.. canadian cell carriers are a lot more expensive. A US person with the right plan can get by entirely without a Cell. A Canadian might opt to keep the land line as doing everything on the cell would be quite expensive
Our son and his wife haven't had a land line phone in 10 years. They both have cell smart phones.
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