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Old 12-03-2014, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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First of all, the French live in France. You must mean Quebecers, or Quebecois. Or, in the context you've given, the Province of Quebec.
Hey, how did I miss that one? I must be slipping...
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The referenda of 1980 and 1995 were rigged? How so?
Let's not open that one up, OK?
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:40 PM
 
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This is rich! You guys call them the French all the time so stop trying to act offended. Ive heard the French Canadians called much worse behind their backs so dont even put on that show. Since you asked everyone knows the independence vote was rigged. Your boys herded in English people from other provinces to vote on the issue and sped up their residency process. WTF is that? Oh and the English who own all the money and wealth and power vote too against the legitimate majority of the province! What kind of banana republic vote is that? Of course the Quebecois lost because it was a sham! Would it be fair if you shuttled in a bunch of Liberals into Alberta to vote on Albertan independence? Didnt think so. Its no secret that the vote was rigged. But you know what I do admire the Quebecois because they have the balls to do their own thing and try and build their own country. At least they dont have to copy the US with everything and arent afraid to make a stand for something like the royalists. So I apologize for hurting your feelings but holy smokes learn to take a little joke.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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Let's not open that one up, OK?
We could just let people know what we are talking about.
Referendum fraud one of greatest scandals in our political history
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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This thread started out so great that I was actually smiling ... 15 comments later and it's about Quebec and separatism? What's with that?
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Since you asked everyone knows the independence vote was rigged. Your boys herded in English people from other provinces to vote on the issue and sped up their residency process. WTF is that? Oh and the English who own all the money and wealth and power vote too against the legitimate majority of the province! What kind of banana republic vote is that? Of course the Quebecois lost because it was a sham!
Proof please. Solid cites only; no blogs or opinion pieces.

Oh, and "the English"? They live in England, not Canada. Though I guess we do have some people originally from England, in Canada. As we do French people, from France.

You would do better to call them "English-speakers" or "Anglophones"; and "French-speakers," or "Francophones." We are all Canadians; our differences on this issue are a result of our native languages.

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Would it be fair if you shuttled in a bunch of Liberals into Alberta to vote on Albertan independence?
Alberta has many Liberal voters. It also has NDP ones. I'd guess that neither would vote for Albertan independence. But since nobody of any consequence is seriously suggesting Albertan independence, the question is moot.

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Its no secret that the vote was rigged.
Still waiting for those definitive cites. You know, RCMP investigations, court decisions, things like that. Rumour, opinion, and innuendo won't cut it.

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At least they [the Quebecois] dont have to copy the US with everything and arent afraid to make a stand for something like the royalists.
So you're suggesting that "Canadian royalists" copy the US? Oh, that's rich. Thanks for the laugh.

Canadian royalists stand for a political system that is anathema to the US: a constitutional monarchy. We have our republicans (small "r," not capital "R," like the party). Both groups get vocal at times. Most of the rest of us just concern ourselves with work, family, and so on.

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So I apologize for hurting your feelings but holy smokes learn to take a little joke.
No hurt feelings here. But I'd suggest you do a little background research before you start throwing around terms like "Royal Dominion," "royalist," "French," and so on.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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We could just let people know what we are talking about.
Referendum fraud one of greatest scandals in our political history
Opinion piece; an editorial. Not a solid cite, but it does offer background information about the issue.

In short, we will never know whether the referendum was rigged or not. We may believe otherwise, we may think differently, we may share our opinions. But until we do know for sure, we cannot claim that it was.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:17 PM
 
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In short, we will never know whether the referendum was rigged or not.
An examination of the ballots would have answered that question.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:33 PM
 
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Proof please. Solid cites only; no blogs or opinion pieces.

Oh, and "the English"? They live in England, not Canada. Though I guess we do have some people originally from England, in Canada. As we do French people, from France.

You would do better to call them "English-speakers" or "Anglophones"; and "French-speakers," or "Francophones." We are all Canadians; our differences on this issue are a result of our native languages.

Alberta has many Liberal voters. It also has NDP ones. I'd guess that neither would vote for Albertan independence. But since nobody of any consequence is seriously suggesting Albertan independence, the question is moot.

Still waiting for those definitive cites. You know, RCMP investigations, court decisions, things like that. Rumour, opinion, and innuendo won't cut it.

So you're suggesting that "Canadian royalists" copy the US? Oh, that's rich. Thanks for the laugh.
Canadian royalists stand for a political system that is anathema to the US: a constitutional monarchy. We have our republicans (small "r," not capital "R," like the party). Both groups get vocal at times. Most of the rest of us just concern ourselves with work, family, and so on.

No hurt feelings here. But I'd suggest you do a little background research before you start throwing around terms like "Royal Dominion," "royalist," "French," and so on.
Haha man this is really classic stuff. "Newsflash: Canadian has feelings hurt". Nothing surprising or new there. I spent more than enough time up in Her Majesty's Royal Domain to know what your polite colleagues have to say about the Quebecois. You might be able to pull that garbage on someone else but not me. You made them beneath you for centuries and kept them at the bottom of society. In 2014 you should be able to admit this. Why cant you acknowledge this? No wonder they want nothing to do with you anymore and when they peacefully try to seperate and you go and rig the vote. You can try to ignore it all you want but the Quebec question isnt going away anytime soon. And I say more power to them I think they are admirable and actually have a backbone.

You dont copy the US? What planet are you on? You watch more US tv than your own. Listen and copy our music. Copied our accent. The real question is what dont you copy? You insecure lumberjacks failed to ever create any culture or identity. Really what is Canadian culture? I really would like to know that. It all depends on what the USA comes up with. Everything in Canada is just a mediocre rip off of something trashy already made in the US. Canadian idol anyone? The amazing race Canada? Even the royal Government blows huge sums of money trying to promote Canadian-made media but no one wants to watch it. Only the Quebecois have a culture and since you have nothing else going for you you try to present it as your own. When they try to become independent you pull a fast one because you know that Quebec is all you have going for you.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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So, Larry, you have no cites and no grounds for your assertions? Very well then, your argument is dismissed.
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