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It is definitely self-segregation, and it's self-segregation with tons of historical precedent since we've been a sovereign nation since at least 1867, and in practise since 1812, and in our own self-interest. I do not see how Quebecois would stand to benefit from secession, and there certainly is no historical precedent for it, but if they hate us enough to want to do that, I support you
I am not a supporter of Quebec independence, so I don't get your point.
The difference is that Israel is a viable country. There is no set of facts under which Quebec as an independent nation can maintain anything close to current living standards without a lot of outside help.
That's what they said about Canada, Iceland, The Bahamas, and New Zealand too.
Realistically, people should have the right to self-determination. I think let there be another referendum. There is no reason a people who hate us should have to be "oppressed" by our federal government transfers.
Acajack, if you are so certain that the Quebecois do not hate us and do not want to separate, surely the results would work out in favour of continued unification.
There are people who are Quebec separatists who do not hate other Canadians. In fact, probably most of the separatists just think we have too little in common. It's not really about hate.
Also, there are Quebec federalists who aren't really big fans of Anglo-Canada either.
And there is no shortage of Anglo-Canadians who hate Quebec, Quebecers, French, etc. Almost all of these people, ironically, are federalists (in the sense that they don't want Quebec to leave, even though they hate it).
There are people who are Quebec separatists who do not hate other Canadians. In fact, probably most of the separatists just think we have too little in common. It's not really about hate.
Also, there are Quebec federalists who aren't really big fans of Anglo-Canada either.
And there is no shortage of Anglo-Canadians who hate Quebec, Quebecers, French, etc. Almost all of these people, ironically, are federalists (in the sense that they don't want Quebec to leave, even though they hate it).
The world is a complex place.
True hatred is about concrete action, not only ideology, just like the difference between prejudice and active discrimination. If you implement policies centred around your own particular prejudice, that is an actual outcome of hate beyond simple preference, prejudice or ideology.
Again, I think that a people should have the right to self-determination. If the majority of Quebecois hate us enough to want us to require a passport and immigration status for us to enter their territory, let them secede.
I am indifferent either way, and I suspect the bulk of the country is as well, to be frank.
Hatred is about concrete action, not ideology, just like the difference between prejudice and active discrimination. If you implement policies centred around your own particular prejudice, that is an actual outcome of hate beyond simple preference, prejudice or ideology.
Again, I think that a people should have the right to self-determination. If the majority of Quebecois hate us enough to want us to require a passport and immigration status for us to enter their territory, let them secede.
I am indifferent either way, and I suspect the bulk of the country is as well, to be frank.
You're looking at the entire thing from the premise of a logical fallacy. I guess it's because you need to latch onto something to explain Quebec and its politics and quirks to yourself.
I realize it's very hard for some people to understand why Quebecers don't just fall into line and want to be Canadians just like the others, given that (Anglo-)Canada is one of the world's most successful societies.
Is anyone familiar with the works of Martin Armstrong?
He wrote a software called Socrates that predicts economic and political events based on economic models.
He has predicted sympathies for Quebec independence will rise in 2018.
Many of his predictions for 2016 seem like they're starting to come true. He predicted a split in the Republican Party in the US which appears to be happening.
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