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But even those people represent a small percent of Americans, and are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to Americans.
It seems to be a trend with the Fox News crowd. Because of some of my views, I am often lumped in with such a crowd. Rubbish! Quite frankly, Fox is far too pinko for me. Fox is just controlled opposition; it still sings the same globalist tune as the rest of the mass media. Any real American can clearly see the natural heritage and brotherhood we share with Canada and would not be so apt to insult Canadians. We may have have a slightly different outlook on some things, but that's to be expected. Much of the controversy over something like socialized medicine comes from the mistake so many make in likening it to socialism. It's not; it's more characteristic of populism. And I do believe strongly in populism; i.e., favoring the interests of the common citizen and not the traitorous, selfish elites.
Mini-rant over. I will wrap up my thoughts by saying that people who put down Canadians are not even worth paying attention to.
I see so many negative opinions about Canada (mostly from Americans I would assume) implying that Canada is a total write off and such. Whats with that?
Any American who has something bad to say about Canada should post his opinion on such utopias such as Detroit, East St. Louis, Camden and New Orleans beautiful 9th ward before he opens his fool mouth. "Ruin Porn" isn't a hobby north of the border for some very good reasons.
I'm not saying Canada doesn't have its share of problems, but seriously...
Any American who has something bad to say about Canada should post his opinion on such utopias such as Detroit, East St. Louis, Camden and New Orleans beautiful 9th ward before he opens his fool mouth. "Ruin Porn" isn't a hobby north of the border for some very good reasons.
I'm not saying Canada doesn't have its share of problems, but seriously...
People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw cinder blocks.
What is this, preemptive American bashing? Of course they shouldn't post opinions on Detroit before saying something bad about Canada. Detroit problems somehow make Canada better? Detroit is nothing, it's somewhere in the 2nd dozen of cities by population size. It's like if you were talking about Oshawa in Canada. Do you know the population of Camden, who cares about it?
Besides, the talk is about countries, not cities. Detroit and alike are finished projects from the mid-20th century, ruined at part by beloved liberal ideas. Anybody with a brain who understands it and doesn't like it just moves on to one of the prosperous America's cities where today's economic action in. Time to move on. America has hundreds of livable cities (unlike Canada) that are not Detroit.
Any American who has something bad to say about Canada should post his opinion on such utopias such as Detroit, East St. Louis, Camden and New Orleans beautiful 9th ward before he opens his fool mouth. "Ruin Porn" isn't a hobby north of the border for some very good reasons.
I'm not saying Canada doesn't have its share of problems, but seriously...
People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw cinder blocks.
Amazing pictures, thanks for posting this. Indeed, there is so much more to explore out there than just Detroit. And yes, any Americans bashing Canada (or Europe) should have a look at those pictures before they open their mouth.
Besides, the talk is about countries, not cities. Detroit and alike are finished projects from the mid-20th century, ruined at part by beloved liberal ideas. Anybody with a brain who understands it and doesn't like it just moves on to one of the prosperous America's cities where today's economic action in. Time to move on. America has hundreds of livable cities (unlike Canada) that are not Detroit.
Gee... Fox News, anyone?
As for the rest of your reply, it seems you missed the point. The fact these ghettoes are allowed to exist in a country that claims to be #1 in the world is pathetic at best. These blighted communities resemble Baghdad or Mogidishu more so than **ANY** city you can find in Canada or Western Europe. Sadly, these aren't the only American ghettoes that resemble war zones, they were just the first four examples off the top of my head. Many other areas of New Jersey and Chicago's "vibrant" south side would easily fit in the same category with these god-forsaken places.
BTW: If you want to be taken more seriously next time, leave the partisan "liberal vs. conservative" diatribe in the U.S. forums. Nobody outside your borders cares who's to blame for who you want to blame for the problems affecting your country. Any way you slice it, America itself is the only one to blame for the photos I posted.
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Amazing pictures, thanks for posting this. Indeed, there is so much more to explore out there than just Detroit. And yes, any Americans bashing Canada (or Europe) should have a look at those pictures before they open their mouth.
There are many other areas of America that are in an advanced state of urban decay besides the much maligned Detroit. That being said, America is also home to some of the most beautiful cities in the world (New York immediately comes to mind).
Amazing pictures, thanks for posting this. Indeed, there is so much more to explore out there than just Detroit. And yes, any Americans bashing Canada (or Europe) should have a look at those pictures before they open their mouth.
Yes, I agree that Americans shouldn't bash Canadians or Europeans. But Canadians or Europeans who look at these images and feel superior to Americans lack the understanding of how these cities got to be this way. You want more of a hint? It's happening in Europe too. Do some research on Malmö, Sweden, for example.
Yes, I agree that Americans shouldn't bash Canadians or Europeans. But Canadians or Europeans who look at these images and feel superior to Americans lack the understanding of how these cities got to be this way. You want more of a hint? It's happening in Europe too. Do some research on Malmö, Sweden, for example.
My point wasn't that those in Canada and Europe should feel superior to Americans because of the cities in these pictures, my point was that America should stop feeling superior to anyone until it does something to fix them. I completely understand why these places exist. At the most basic level a lot of Americans made some very bad social, economical and political decisions that led to their eventual decline, without doing a single thing to try and stop it.
My point wasn't that those in Canada and Europe should feel superior to Americans because of the cities in these pictures, my point was that America should stop feeling superior to anyone until it does something to fix them. I completely understand why these places exist. At the most basic level a lot of Americans made some very bad social, economical and political decisions that led to their eventual decline, without doing a single thing to try and stop it.
End of story.
(Emphasis mine.)
Not quite. A lot in the way of social programs and government assistance have been poured into these places, to little effect.
Any American who has something bad to say about Canada should post his opinion on such utopias such as Detroit, East St. Louis, Camden and New Orleans beautiful 9th ward before he opens his fool mouth. "Ruin Porn" isn't a hobby north of the border for some very good reasons.
I'm not saying Canada doesn't have its share of problems, but seriously...
People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw cinder blocks.
I lived in Metro Detroit, so I know what the huge swaths of the city proper look like. I've been to Gary, Indiana (or, should I say, "through," because I sure as heck wouldn't want to hang out there). As a long-time resident of the US, I'm aware (as are born-and-bred Americans) how some US communities have degenerated, and I don't understand how it happens, myself.
But I'm not going to sit here and let Metro Detroit be maligned by people who've never lived there and especially by people who've probably never never lived outside of places like Oshawa, Ontario (now THERE's a beautiful, sophisticated, exciting place). So, let me tell you a little about the Big, BAD, "D":
Though I didn't want to stay in Detroit, I always try to give credit where credit is due, and I can honestly say that I've never lived anywhere, including the Canadian cities in which I've lived, where there was such a huge emphasis on education. Yes, you heard me correctly. In suburban Detroit. Great public schools (and many private), including one of the most (consistently) top-rated public high schools in the country. Fabulous public libraries. Excellent universities. A well-funded education system and very well-paid teachers (I knew some who were better paid than most Canadian teachers).
In the suburbs, a very large percentage of the parents my kids went to school with, and the people my ex and I worked with, were highly-educated and well-traveled. I met so many individuals and families who had lived and worked abroad that I lost count. Some of them had lived in multiple foreign countries. I know VERY few Canadians, in comparison, who've lived outside of Canada, and many who've lived nowhere else but their hometowns.
Metro Detroit is also very diverse and accomodates (hate that word, but I'll use it here) different faiths, ethnicities and religions. It has one of the largest Jewish populations in the country, and in one community where I worked, the school district recognized Jewish holidays, just as it does Christian holidays.Therefore, schools were closed for Hanukkah, Rosh Hashanah and Yom kippur.
Detroit has the largest Arab population outside of the Middle East and the biggest Muslim population in the West. In fact, in Hamtramck, a section of Detroit proper originally settled by Polish immigrants, the City Council 10 years ago approved the Islamic Call to Prayer on the Mosque's loudspeakers 5 times per day. The practice continues today (I can't help but wonder how well residents of Oshawa would take to that) And, of course, it goes without saying that the African-American community has a strong culture throughout the Metro area.
And the suburbs are lovely, safe areas where I routinely walked at night alone, and we'd leave the house unlocked when going out (we never would have done that in Hamilton in the years we lived there). Years ago, when my kids were babies and I was horribly sleep-deprived, I began forgetting my purse in stores, doctor's offices and parks all over the Metro Area. Often. And every single time, when I went to retrieve my purse hours later or perhaps the next day, I learned that someone had handed it in to management completely intact. Everything was still there, including cash, credit cards, jewelery and other valuables that I may have (foolishly) carried. That DEFINITELY would not have been the case in Hamilton.
God knows Detroit has its problems, but people are so busy hating on it without knowing anything at all about the place. Gets on my nerves.
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In fact, in Hamtramck, a section of Detroit proper originally settled by Polish immigrants, the City Council 10 years ago approved the Islamic Call to Prayer on the Mosque's loudspeakers 5 times per day. The practice continues today (I can't help but wonder how well residents of Oshawa would take to that)
And this is supposed to be a good thing? If you're trying to say the people of Oshawa and other less cosmopolitan Canadian cities wouldn't stand for this, I would commend them for it!
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If you're trying to say the people of Oshawa and other less cosmopolitan Canadian cities wouldn't stand for this, I would commend them for it!
