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View Poll Results: Is Canada better without Quebec?
Yes, Canada is better off without Quebec 55 41.67%
No, Canada is better off with Quebec 77 58.33%
Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-13-2015, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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You cant have it both ways.
You either go independent and write your own rules and regulations as a sovereign nation or you abide by the rules and regulations that Canada puts in place.Seems you want all the benefits Canada has to offer but accept nothing about being a Canadian,Going back to the topics query Why would Canada need such an Albatross? Whats in it for Canada
What is a Canadian? One who is born in Canada? One who is bilingual? Then I am a Canadian. I have nothng to prove here. Whether or not Canada would accept such an albatross is clear. They have done so before. Canada does not wish to witness it's own break up, does it? This has proved to be the ultimate bargaining chip. The Canadian federal government has made it known that it is an instrument available for the use of the provinces. Why pass up this offer in favour of a dead end independence movement.

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Old 02-13-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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I'm sniffing some troll in Msr. PBeauchamp...non se faire avoir.
Do you have any morcels of information to offer? Tell me three good reasons why Quebec should seperate if you disagree with me.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I'm sniffing some troll in Msr. PBeauchamp...non se faire avoir.
The sad thing is that these guys are a dime a dozen in Quebec. They just dont voice their opinions in English, only rarely so I cant say I'm surprised that one of these vultures found their way here. Why do you think I got the hell out of Quebec?
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Turlock, CA
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I remember in the 90s there was a discussion of the referendum of the First Nations population within Quebec. Wasn't there a situation where if Quebec had voted to separate, and succeeded in navigating the political morass that is that process, a large amount of the land they claim would have been given back to the tribes?

Wouldn't this still be the case today? If I remember it right, Quebec would lose a great deal of territory in the North.
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Saint-Aimé-des-Lacs, Québec
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I remember in the 90s there was a discussion of the referendum of the First Nations population within Quebec. Wasn't there a situation where if Quebec had voted to separate, and succeeded in navigating the political morass that is that process, a large amount of the land they claim would have been given back to the tribes?

Wouldn't this still be the case today? If I remember it right, Quebec would lose a great deal of territory in the North.
This never happened it was a myth. There is no truth to it.
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Turlock, CA
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This never happened it was a myth. There is no truth to it.
I remember the CBC covering it.

Edit- Here we go: http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/Re...overnment(txt)

Doesn't seem like a myth to me.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I remember the CBC covering it.

Edit- Here we go: Aboriginal Peoples and the 1995 Quebec Referendum: A Survey of the Issues (BP412e)

Doesn't seem like a myth to me.
Your link is entirely speculative. There was and is nothing official whatsoever that claimed Quebec would be split up in the event of independence. It was a rumor that circulated in anglophone circles and caught on.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Turlock, CA
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Your link is entirely speculative. There was and is nothing official whatsoever that claimed Quebec would be split up in the event of independence. It was a rumor that circulated in anglophone circles and caught on.

Again, doesn't seem like a rumor. It seems like events that actually occurred, that were likely to be argued before the courts if the referendum had succeeded and self-determination of Quebec had been established, using that same self-determination ruling as backup for the ability of the aboriginal people to remain with Canada.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Again, doesn't seem like a rumor. It seems like events that actually occurred, that were likely to be argued before the courts if the referendum had succeeded and self-determination of Quebec had been established, using that same self-determination ruling as backup for the ability of the aboriginal people to remain with Canada.
In other words, speculation.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Turlock, CA
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In other words, speculation.
So is this thread, and the concept of Quebec separating. Until it's officially decided, it will be entirely speculation.
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