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Old 04-18-2015, 08:12 AM
 
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It's funny because everyone French here wants their kids to speak English as well.
I don't see how that could lead to eradicating English in the long term.
I really think that the government is doing something here that the people don't want but maybe no-one acts against it...just talks about it.
You know this to be fact exactly how?

More to the point; if it is indeed a fact, why do you suppose that is?
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Old 04-18-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Canada
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You know this to be fact exactly how?

More to the point; if it is indeed a fact, why do you suppose that is?
from talking to Quebecers in Montreal...of course it's a generalization and based on my age group, & localized to a city that openly is more biligual than the rest of Quebec, but in general, the opinion is consistent from a small sample.
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Old 04-18-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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It's funny because everyone French here wants their kids to speak English as well.
I don't see how that could lead to eradicating English in the long term.
I really think that the government is doing something here that the people don't want but maybe no-one acts against it...just talks about it.

Eradicating English in Quebec is not just one issue like the ever present threat of separation, its cumulative and gives Anglos a very real sense of not being liked or wanted in Quebec,The crux of the issue is about these issues=
Why the need for the OQLF and bill101?
why the need for ever more language restrictions?
Why not just let people speak whatever language they want?
,go to whatever schools they want ?
,post whatever signs they want ,?
name companies whatever names they want?
Also those French people wanting their kids to speak English will have to shell out for private schooling as they arent allowed to attend public English schools in Quebec.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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from talking to Quebecers in Montreal...of course it's a generalization and based on my age group, & localized to a city that openly is more biligual than the rest of Quebec, but in general, the opinion is consistent from a small sample.
Yeah but that "feeling" confined to a particular demographic in no way reflects the authoritative policies patterned by a completely different demographic altogether.

It is often flouted on here that old royalist Anglais held sway over Quebec's future and development in a negative fashion. One could easily postulate it is now a rigid homophobic like minded group holding that pair of reigns and the result will be just as regressive, regardless of what language they may speak by choice.
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Also those French people wanting their kids to speak English will have to shell out for private schooling as they arent allowed to attend public English schools in Quebec.
This supposes that you have to go to English school all day in order to learn to speak English.
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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from talking to Quebecers in Montreal...of course it's a generalization and based on my age group, & localized to a city that openly is more biligual than the rest of Quebec, but in general, the opinion is consistent from a small sample.
I don't think it would be accurate to equate the willingness of many francophones to have their kids learn English with a widespread opposition to most of the language policies and the eventual societal impacts of their hypothetical elimination.
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Eradicating English in Quebec is not just one issue like the ever present threat of separation, its cumulative and gives Anglos a very real sense of not being liked or wanted in Quebec,The crux of the issue is about these issues=
Why the need for the OQLF and bill101?
why the need for ever more language restrictions?
Why not just let people speak whatever language they want?
,go to whatever schools they want ?
,post whatever signs they want ,?
name companies whatever names they want?
Also those French people wanting their kids to speak English will have to shell out for private schooling as they arent allowed to attend public English schools in Quebec.
they teach English at the public schools, no?
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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they teach English at the public schools, no?
Yes, starting in grade 1
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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they teach English at the public schools, no?
Yeah the french schools do teach English perhaps an hour a day several days a week, speak to any recipient of that public education in English and you find out real quick why the high rollers send their kids to private English schools,usually out of province/country.
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Old 04-18-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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Yeah the french schools do teach English perhaps an hour a day several days a week, speak to any recipient of that public education in English and you find out real quick why the high rollers send their kids to private English schools,usually out of province/country.
This is not common at all. The vast, vast majority (honestly, it is probably close to 99,8%) of kids from French-speaking families go to French-language schools, public or private.

Sure, you can find a couple of kids with French-sounding names in LCC, Selwin House or ECS. But high rollers are much more likely to send their kids to Brébeuf, Jean-Eudes, Collège de Montréal, Saint-Anne, Mont-Saint-Louis, etc.
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