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Old 06-29-2015, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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Well that would be a problem Quebec and the natives would have to work out than.
The Quebec government has a better track record with First Nations issues than the Feds... in fact, one of the better track records Canada-wide.

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As for Mandarin, well it has never developed a fully functioning society on North American soil at any point in history and its speakers (past and present) do not come here with the goal of building such a society.
BC will end up becoming one such society... although not by design.
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Old 06-29-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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BC will end up becoming one such society... although not by design.

That's virtually impossible. Not even close to 100% of second-generation Chinese-Canadians in BC even speak Mandarin and almost none of the non-Chinese population there speaks it.

Only a small proportion of BC born kids of Chinese parents can actually read and write Chinese characters.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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That's virtually impossible. Not even close to 100% of second-generation Chinese-Canadians in BC even speak Mandarin and almost none of the non-Chinese population there speaks it.

Only a small proportion of BC born kids of Chinese parents can actually read and write Chinese characters.
I'm trying to find stats but having no luck. What stats are you basing this on?

I haven't a clue about today, but I can tell you when I was growing up every single kid of Chinese decent went to Chinese Language school after our regular school.
The friends I have today who are of Chinese background, but born here, all speak Chinese. Many had to.
They were the translators for their parents.

I would assume it is much the same today, since having Mandarin and or Cantonese as a 2nd language is more important in the 21st century than it was in the 20th.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I'm trying to find stats but having no luck. What stats are you basing this on?

I haven't a clue about today, but I can tell you when I was growing up every single kid of Chinese decent went to Chinese Language school after our regular school.
The friends I have today who are of Chinese background, but born here, all speak Chinese. Many had to.
They were the translators for their parents.

I would assume it is much the same today, since having Mandarin and or Cantonese as a 2nd language is more important in the 21st century than it was in the 20th.
It's not a big secret that minority languages tend to decline intergenerationally in the absence of official status:

Recent evolution of immigrant-language transmission in Canada
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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I'm trying to find stats but having no luck. What stats are you basing this on?

I haven't a clue about today, but I can tell you when I was growing up every single kid of Chinese decent went to Chinese Language school after our regular school.
The friends I have today who are of Chinese background, but born here, all speak Chinese. Many had to.
They were the translators for their parents.

I would assume it is much the same today, since having Mandarin and or Cantonese as a 2nd language is more important in the 21st century than it was in the 20th.
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It's not a big secret that minority languages tend to decline intergenerationally in the absence of official status:

Recent evolution of immigrant-language transmission in Canada
And so, will Chinese-Canadians in BC push for Chinese having official status in BC?
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:36 AM
 
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And so, will Chinese-Canadians in BC push for Chinese having official status in BC?


I say go for it and perhaps an ensuing Bill一百零一with language police and everything
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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And so, will Chinese-Canadians in BC push for Chinese having official status in BC?
Why would they when their kids and grandkids (and even they themselves in many cases) have a good chance of having limited functionality in it?
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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Why would they when their kids and grandkids (and even they themselves in many cases) have a good chance of having limited functionality in it?
By choice.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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By choice.
Indeed (in many cases anyway), but getting back to the point, it still takes a large part of the impetus for demanding official language status away, doesn't it?
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Throw a party?
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