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Old 08-31-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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There is clearly no shortage of money when it comes to paying salaries to the people in charge: First Nations transparency: a deeper look at chiefs' earnings

Perhaps there needs to be some sort of revolution on the reserves to ensure that the needs of the people are met.
If the band members were taxed to pay those salaries there would be such a revolution. Not if Ottawa (or in my country Washington) were paying them.
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Old 09-01-2015, 07:15 AM
 
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If the band members were taxed to pay those salaries there would be such a revolution. Not if Ottawa (or in my country Washington) were paying them.
Those with the high salaries and comfortable lifestyles make decisions about how government money is spent. Instead of complaining to the government that there isn't enough money, why not look to the local person who handles the ample money and demand change? Are people on the reserve so disconnected from the amount of money they receive, the intended use for the money, and how that money is spent that they can't see where the breakdown occurs? If so, why are people on the reserve so disinterested in their own finances?

I understand that it is a extremely politically incorrect to even ask questions about what's going on, but people are weary of the complaining. People don't understand why millions of dollars are spent every year to address concerns, yet at the end the money is gone and nothing is accomplished. Aboriginals want autonomy in all things, and they want money to fix whatever is broken. They receive money, and everyone knows the money is usually mismanaged ... then comes the demand again for more money and complete autonomy in managing it. It's an ugly cycle.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:45 AM
 
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Those with the high salaries and comfortable lifestyles make decisions about how government money is spent. Instead of complaining to the government that there isn't enough money, why not look to the local person who handles the ample money and demand change? Are people on the reserve so disconnected from the amount of money they receive, the intended use for the money, and how that money is spent that they can't see where the breakdown occurs? If so, why are people on the reserve so disinterested in their own finances?

I understand that it is a extremely politically incorrect to even ask questions about what's going on, but people are weary of the complaining. People don't understand why millions of dollars are spent every year to address concerns, yet at the end the money is gone and nothing is accomplished. Aboriginals want autonomy in all things, and they want money to fix whatever is broken. They receive money, and everyone knows the money is usually mismanaged ... then comes the demand again for more money and complete autonomy in managing it. It's an ugly cycle.
And more than one Canadian demographic repetitively uses this ploy.

Couldn't rep you again but your last para says everything needing saying about this ridiculous issue.
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:49 PM
 
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And more than one Canadian demographic repetitively uses this ploy.

Couldn't rep you again but your last para says everything needing saying about this ridiculous issue.
Thanks. The list of gifted money goes on and on and on ... millions and billions of Canadian tax payer money is given to aboriginals so they can make change. Aboriginals demand the right to manage the money, which they are granted. Decades have passed, nothing has changed. Demands for money to address the same problems continue.

It was in relation to publicity about the number of missing women in Canada that the amount of money given to aboriginals first caught my attention. I started looking into how much money aboriginal people received to explore the reasons that aboriginal women (those with 1/8 or more aboriginal family connection) are missing and murdered (primarily at the hands of those known to them). I was quite surprised to learn that so much money had been spent, and still there is a demand for more. The bottom line seems to be that aboriginal women are murdered by men they know, and that is not the answer they want, so they want more money ... hoping that more money will suggest that someone else .. perhaps new Canadians ... are to blame.


"Significant attention was drawn to the number of missing and murdered Aboriginal women through the Native Women’s Association of Canada’s (NWAC) Sisters in Spirit Initiative. In March 2010, as part of this initiative, NWAC had documented 582 cases of missing and murdered Aboriginal women.[SIZE=2][46][/SIZE] NWAC received project funding of $5 million from Status of Women Canada (SWC) between 2005 and 2010 for Sisters in Spirit, with the goal of identifying root causes, trends and circumstances of violence that have led to disappearance and death of Aboriginal women and girls.

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Although this initiative ended on March 31, 2010, Budget 2010 committed an investment of “$10 million over two years to address the disturbingly high number of missing and murdered Aboriginal women

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The Committee was told of some Health Canada programs designed for the Aboriginal communities at large that could be used by families of missing and murdered Aboriginal women, such as the over $200 million invested annually in the Inuit and First Nations Health Branch, which offers mental health counselling and addiction treatment centres

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Aboriginal Justice Strategy was part of an overall federal Aboriginal crime strategy and has been renewed three times. In 2007, the funding was enhanced to $14.5 million over two years (from 2007-2008 to 2008-2009).[SIZE=2][95][/SIZE] In August 2008, the Minister of Justice confirmed the strategy’s renewal for five years until 2012, with funding of $40 million over that period.[SIZE=2][96][/SIZE] The enhanced funding was to allow expansion “into areas of high need, such as urban, northern, and off reserve Aboriginal communities, in addition to focusing on Aboriginal youth.”[SIZE=1][97[/SIZE]

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National Crime Prevention Centre “has been an active and supportive partner in many [A]boriginal communities across the country by investing over $46 million to fund 40 crime prevention projects aimed at [A]boriginal communities

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Starting in 2001, the federal government established a framework for cost-sharing new affordable housing construction, with a funding commitment of $680 million. In 2003, a federal commitment of $320 million was dedicated to additional funding for housing targeted to low-income households in communities with a particular need for affordable housing. In this phase, the rent of the housing units has to be at levels affordable for low-income households.[SIZE=2][114][/SIZE]
In Budget 2006, the federal government announced $300 million in a one-time transfer through the Northern Housing Trust “to help meet short-term pressures with regard to the supply of affordable housing in the North.”[SIZE=2][115][/SIZE] This funding was allocated to the three Northern territories from 2006-2007 to 2008-2009.[SIZE=2][116][/SIZE]"

House of Commons Committees - FEWO (41-1) - Ending Violence Against Aboriginal Women and Girls: Empowerment - A New Beginning - ENDING VIOLENCE AGAINST ABORIGINAL WOMEN AND GIRLS: EMPOWERMENT
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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The whole money thing is in the news today again - a problem with accounting for the money:

"First Nations have until midnight to file their financial information or risk losing a portion of federal government funding, according to Aboriginal Affairs.

Under the First Nations Financial Transparency Act, which came into effect last year, First Nations must submit their audited financial statements for the past fiscal year to the government, including salaries and expenses of chiefs and councillors.

Aboriginal Affairs says there are 617 First Nations in Canada but the act only applies to 581. The remaining First Nations have self-government agreements and are exempt.

As of today, the Aboriginal Affairs website shows that 197 First Nations, or roughly 33 per cent, of the bands required to file had not yet complied. That is significantly higher than the number that missed the deadline last year, when 98 per cent of bands complied with the new law.

"Beginning Sept. 1, 2015, bands that have yet to comply with the law will see funding for non-essential services withheld," Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt said in a statement Tuesday morning. "

First Nations risk losing funding if they fail to file financial info by midnight - Aboriginal - CBC
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Nation du Québec
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How did this thread turn into first nations bashing?
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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I like this response from the aboriginal people regarding accountability for Canadian Taxpayer money:

""The real story starts with asking why the Harper government felt it needed to create and unilaterally push a transparency law on indigenous communities who are already encumbered by the most punitive and stringent reporting requirements and standards of accountability under Canadian fiscal policy," Grand Chief Derek Nepinak said in an email."
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:19 PM
 
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How did this thread turn into first nations bashing?
I don't think it's about bashing. There were several comments posted earlier in the discussion about the lack of funding to aboriginals for basic needs. I can only assume that people are unaware of the billions of tax payer dollars that have been made available to resolve the needs of aboriginals over the last few decades.

The absence of accountability may be at the root of the problem, so last year the Canadian government demanded accountability. I think it's important to recognize that 1/3 of aboriginal groups have chosen to not reveal what has happened with the money in the past year, knowing that they will lose funding for non-essential services. It's one thing to ask for money for needed services, receive the money, demand autonomy in spending the money, receive autonomy, spend the money, and then refuse to account for how the money was spent. Canadian taxpayers have a right to know whether their money is spent as intended and, if not, why not.
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Old 09-01-2015, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Canada
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How did this thread turn into first nations bashing?
It's that racism we don't have here.
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Old 09-01-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Canada
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And since I don't have the time to type out anything in any depth, this CBC link, for those who are genuinely interested, seems to be pretty thorough. How does native funding work? - Canada - CBC News

And if there's anything good about this thread, it's that it certainly puts paid to the idea that racism is less existent in Canada than in the US. The only thing that changes is the target.
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