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View Poll Results: Is Quebec still a colony of Canada?
Quebec is a colony of Canada 23 60.53%
Quebec is not a colony of Canada 15 39.47%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-13-2015, 02:33 PM
 
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So we aren't allowed to talk about Québec? Obviously a lot of people have interest, since the Québec independence thread is one of the most popular ever in the Canada forum.
No of course you have the right to talk about Quebec or any other topic.

A lot of people have interest? I think not. I can count with one hand the couple of posters who regularly populate Quebec threads lol
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Old 03-13-2015, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Nation du Québec
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No of course you have the right to talk about Quebec or any other topic.

A lot of people have interest? I think not. I can count with one hand the couple of posters who regularly populate Quebec threads lol
Wow you have lots of fingers!
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Old 03-13-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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Wow you have lots of fingers!
Not sure why you have to react this way. I was merely pointing out that there are a lot of repeat threads on the same issue, with repetitive content on each thread, and that it could be more efficient and time saving for all of us if we could merge them into fewer threads.
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Old 03-13-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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There is a reason why Lord Durham suggested that the French-Canadians needed to be assimilated to erase "the problem" and Britain enforced the 1840 Act of Union. That way the British and English Canadian loyalists expected that they would erase the French Canadians as a distinct people and society.
True and it seemed like a good scheme at the time, my bet is they misjudged the average canayen's level of insecurity.

Most of them likely felt they would forever be ridiculed and thought of as retarded due to their french habitant accent and even possibly be relegated to near serfdom no matter what while others couldnt possibly hope to rank with the british/north european ruling class because of their swarthy mediterrean looks.

IMO it still rings true today to some extent , they feel they cant compete on an individual basis so they rely on the ol' US vs THEM mentality.
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Old 03-14-2015, 05:47 AM
 
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Independence would have been nice, but I don't think most people in Quebec at the time had any illusions about being able to maintain a strong independent state in the context of an expansionist US, a British Empire at the height of her power, and a world order full of other Europeans powers who'd have been happy and able to conquer her again.
Many of the Patriote leaders were annexationist, that is, they favoured the US annexing Canada.
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Old 03-14-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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I agree that most of the "arguments in favour" are true, but not sure that most them make Quebec a "colonized territory".
This. To be honest I am quite surprised by the results of this poll. In my mind, Quebec was a colony of Great Britain but was never a colony of Canada.
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Old 03-14-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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This. To be honest I am quite surprised by the results of this poll. In my mind, Quebec was a colony of Great Britain but was never a colony of Canada.
Lots of countries came about having the territory and populations they have by questionable means. The way Quebec came to be a part of Canada was not squeaky clean, but it's not at the top of the list of the worst either.
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Old 03-14-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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This. To be honest I am quite surprised by the results of this poll. In my mind, Quebec was a colony of Great Britain but was never a colony of Canada.
Bigbubbles81 is right, Canada is just a revised version of the British empire. It is clear that Quebec was colonized (or use whatever word is more comfortable) by the British and their North American colonials known as anglo Canadians, or loyalists, or whichever term is most desirable.

That makes Quebec in some way, a colony of Canada, in practice if not officially. There are some separatists voting and probably also some Americans and Europeans. It's not hard to imagine that from their perspective Quebec looks a little, should we say, less than "equal". As a francophone I have had some Americans tell me I am a "real" Canadian (more than anglophones), but there are others who see us as a convenient attachment to the "real" (see: anglo) Canadians.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:49 PM
 
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Lots of countries came about having the territory and populations they have by questionable means. The way Quebec came to be a part of Canada was not squeaky clean, but it's not at the top of the list of the worst either.
Truth.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Many of the Patriote leaders were annexationist, that is, they favoured the US annexing Canada.
Not just that, but a lot of the founding fathers of Canada were guys who wanted to be annexed by the US, but the British wouldn't let them.
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