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Old 05-13-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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I never understood why most people from Nova Scotia, Ontario and Alberta would have in common a basic knowledge of, I dunno, "I'm Proud to be an Okie from Muskogee" but not a whole bunch of (Anglo-)Canadian stuff instead.
I'm not sure if "Okie from Muskogee" is a good example. Perhaps better ones would be "New York New York" by Frank Sinatra, or "I left My Heart in San Francisco" by Tony Bennett. Regardless, your point as regards regionalism in music is valid and your question is good. Why do pretty much all Canadians know about "the city that never sleeps" and "little cable cars that climb halfway to the stars"; while very few know anything about the Mary Ellen Carter, or why nineteen scarlet roses were scattered in the waters of Burrard Inlet.

Some regionalisms do make it across Canada--the Guess Who did hit with "Runnin' Back to Saskatoon"; and Neil Young mused, "Think I'll go out to Alberta, weather's good there in the fall" in "Four Strong Winds." Similarly, other Canadianisms make it also: the Barenaked Ladies sang, "This is me in grade nine" instead of "This is me in freshman year."

Still, a very good question.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I'm not sure if "Okie from Muskogee" is a good example. Perhaps better ones would be "New York New York" by Frank Sinatra, or "I left My Heart in San Francisco" by Tony Bennett. Regardless, your point as regards regionalism in music is valid and your question is good. Why do pretty much all Canadians know about "the city that never sleeps" and "little cable cars that climb halfway to the stars"; while very few know anything about the Mary Ellen Carter, or why nineteen scarlet roses were scattered in the waters of Burrard Inlet.

Some regionalisms do make it across Canada--the Guess Who did hit with "Runnin' Back to Saskatoon"; and Neil Young mused, "Think I'll go out to Alberta, weather's good there in the fall" in "Four Strong Winds." Similarly, other Canadianisms make it also: the Barenaked Ladies sang, "This is me in grade nine" instead of "This is me in freshman year."

Still, a very good question.
Well to be fair, every dude in the country knows exactly where and how crappy Fort McMurray is, a tiny city with 60K people.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Huh lol - what am I missing..?

See Nat's post 14.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I'm not sure if "Okie from Muskogee" is a good example. Perhaps better ones would be "New York New York" by Frank Sinatra, or "I left My Heart in San Francisco" by Tony Bennett. Regardless, your point as regards regionalism in music is valid and your question is good. Why do pretty much all Canadians know about "the city that never sleeps" and "little cable cars that climb halfway to the stars"; while very few know anything about the Mary Ellen Carter, or why nineteen scarlet roses were scattered in the waters of Burrard Inlet.

Some regionalisms do make it across Canada--the Guess Who did hit with "Runnin' Back to Saskatoon"; and Neil Young mused, "Think I'll go out to Alberta, weather's good there in the fall" in "Four Strong Winds." Similarly, other Canadianisms make it also: the Barenaked Ladies sang, "This is me in grade nine" instead of "This is me in freshman year."

Still, a very good question.
I think there is a generational shift as well Chevy... Most younger Canadians know of Deadmau5, Drake and Kardinal Offisiall for example while fewer and fewer know about New York New York or I left my Heart in San Francisco. Even younger Americans probably are decreasingly aware of Sinatra or Tony Bennett.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I think there is a generational shift as well Chevy... Most younger Canadians know of Deadmau5, Drake and Kardinal Offisiall for example while fewer and fewer know about New York New York or I left my Heart in San Francisco. Even younger Americans probably are decreasingly aware of Sinatra or Tony Bennett.
Although, a valid point would be that certain things never totally go away. New York New York IMO would be one of those songs. My kids know it for example, and they are not even anglos.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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See Nat's post 14.
hmmm - you might be surprised.. Well obviously now she wouldn't be standing at all but ya never know when she was around

#youaresomeanlol
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I'm not sure if "Okie from Muskogee" is a good example. Perhaps better ones would be "New York New York" by Frank Sinatra, or "I left My Heart in San Francisco" by Tony Bennett. Regardless, your point as regards regionalism in music is valid and your question is good. Why do pretty much all Canadians know about "the city that never sleeps" and "little cable cars that climb halfway to the stars"; while very few know anything about the Mary Ellen Carter, or why nineteen scarlet roses were scattered in the waters of Burrard Inlet.

Some regionalisms do make it across Canada--the Guess Who did hit with "Runnin' Back to Saskatoon"; and Neil Young mused, "Think I'll go out to Alberta, weather's good there in the fall" in "Four Strong Winds." Similarly, other Canadianisms make it also: the Barenaked Ladies sang, "This is me in grade nine" instead of "This is me in freshman year."

Still, a very good question.
What's interesting (or ironic?) is that music is still probably the best performing sector of the Anglo Canadian arts and entertainment industry.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Why does it even matter? How does a cross-country celtic music fan legion make a country more legitimate?
It doesn't. But it's one thing to know that, say, Cape Breton Island has a Celtic music tradition; while I'd suggest that it is another thing entirely that somebody in the same country doesn't even know that it exists. You can use whatever genre you like, by the way.

Or, to put it another way, I'm pretty sure that urban hip-hoppers in NYC and Philadelphia know that Texas produces country music. They may not like country music; they may make fun of it even. But they know that it exists, and some of it comes from Texas. Conversely, my Albertan friends to whom I introduced Stan Rogers (and other, more traditional Cape Breton tunes and artists) had no idea that such music even existed, much less that it was produced on the other side of Canada.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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hmmm - you might be surprised.. Well obviously now she wouldn't be standing at all but ya never know when she was around

#youaresomeanlol
Spoken like a true fan!
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Although, a valid point would be that certain things never totally go away. New York New York IMO would be one of those songs. My kids know it for example, and they are not even anglos.
mmmmmmmmmaaaaybbeeee but not so much.
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