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View Poll Results: Is Canada a land of mediocrity?
Yes 23 60.53%
No 15 39.47%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-28-2015, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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You're painfully delusional if you think America is some land of big dreams in which anybody can obtain. If you haven't seen a homeless person in America than you are either blind or retarded and looking at America through rosy glasses.
Well, you're right, of course, and I've argued that with the libertarian sheep over in the economics threads a number of times. But when it comes to looking through rosy colored glasses, I'm afraid you're somewhat guilty, yourself. You're one of those adorable (fellow) liberals I occasionally come across who idealize everything about Canada without knowing much about it. Kinda like the way we North Americans categorically gush over Sweden's generous social benefits or France's cultural supremacy.

It doesn't take a genius to see that Canada's a great country and one of the best places in the world to be. Like, no duh. But, though I'm proud to call it the land of my birth and rearing, it's got its problems, too. What, you haven't seen any homeless people in, say, Toronto? They ARE there, you know. But to what extent those populations are considered a socioeconomic "problem" is relative, as these things usually are: my former in-laws in Manitoba always LOVE to click their tongues in disdain at what they regard as "Ontario's horrible social problems," which include "all the homeless people everywhere."

I never know what the heck they're talking about, mind you, because their province's capital city definitely has its share of problems (seen 'em firsthand), and I routinely saw drunks, in the middle of the day, walking THE street of their insular, hick, racist "town," located in the middle of freaking nowhere near the Saskatchewan border (which shall remain nameless to protect the innocent). Absolutely gawdawful place.

Regardless, if I were ever going to be homeless, I'd much rather do it in San Diego or Atlanta than Toronto or Winnipeg (or Edmonton, Regina, or Montreal, for that matter).

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Old 05-28-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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So I don't have a job now? So I do not have a wife and kids and self sufficient? So you are making stuff up about me so you can prop yourself on a pedastal? I have a job. I have a home with my wife. I have opportunities. I am well liked in the real world and don't need your approval. You seem to think i want people's validation. I don't i came to share my opinion. Just because you are stubborn and believe your self wOrth is a lot more than it is. Doesn't make you anything more than you are. a nobody. Just like the rest of us posting on here.
Well there ya go. Now you're claiming you don't want validation when every single one of your posts has been suggesting the alternative.

Now you have opportunities when your previous posts have all claimed otherwise.

I'm glad you're well liked in the real world. Your over quick resorting to insult would not have suggested that. The personal name calling and gay accusations must be something you confine to the internet then?

I have never compared my self worth to anyone's; that's a fool's errand.

I do indeed think I'm somebody but contrary to your surmising, I also think of you as somebody.

Your opinion is just as valid as anyone's and also, just as open to challenge by anyone.

You have not accepted challenge to your opinion without resorting to the temper.

Let's simply agree that in the nature of the threads topic being Canada a country of mediocrity we will disagree to the extent opportunities do exist but not in the quantity they would in a country with 350 million people and the economy that goes with it.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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Well there ya go. Now you're claiming you don't want validation when every single one of your posts has been suggesting the alternative.

Now you have opportunities when your previous posts have all claimed otherwise.

I'm glad you're well liked in the real world. Your over quick resorting to insult would not have suggested that. The personal name calling and gay accusations must be something you confine to the internet then?

I have never compared my self worth to anyone's; that's a fool's errand.

I do indeed think I'm somebody but contrary to your surmising, I also think of you as somebody.

Your opinion is just as valid as anyone's and also, just as open to challenge by anyone.

You have not accepted challenge to your opinion without resorting to the temper.

Let's simply agree that in the nature of the threads topic being Canada a country of mediocrity we will disagree to the extent opportunities do exist but not in the quantity they would in a country with 350 million people and the economy that goes with it.
Ok. I can agree with that.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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As an American, I prefer to think of Canada as safe, polite, and stable (unlike SOME countries we could name). If that equals boring to you, reply to the poll in the affirmative. I am not of that opinion; I did not.
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Seattle-WA-USA
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Well, you're right, of course, and I've argued that with the libertarian sheep over in the economics threads a number of times. But when it comes to looking through rosy colored glasses, I'm afraid you're somewhat guilty, yourself. You're one of those adorable (fellow) liberals I occasionally come across who idealize everything about Canada without knowing much about it. Kinda like the way we North Americans categorically gush over Sweden's generous social benefits or France's cultural supremacy.

It doesn't take a genius to see that Canada's a great country and one of the best places in the world to be. Like, no duh. But, though I'm proud to call it the land of my birth and rearing, it's got its problems, too. What, you haven't seen any homeless people in, say, Toronto? They ARE there, you know. But to what extent those populations are considered a socioeconomic "problem" is relative, as these things usually are: my former in-laws in Manitoba always LOVE to click their tongues in disdain at what they regard as "Ontario's horrible social problems," which include "all the homeless people everywhere."

I never know what the heck they're talking about, mind you, because their province's capital city definitely has its share of problems (seen 'em firsthand), and I routinely saw drunks, in the middle of the day, walking THE street of their insular, hick, racist "town," located in the middle of freaking nowhere near the Saskatchewan border (which shall remain nameless to protect the innocent). Absolutely gawdawful place.

Regardless, if I were ever going to be homeless, I'd much rather do it in San Diego or Atlanta than Toronto or Winnipeg (or Edmonton, Regina, or Montreal, for that matter).
You're kinda right, yes, I used to do the same with Canada as looking at it so idealized. But I stopped, because last time I complimented the country I got called a pothead. So...
And I also know more about it, as well as other places of the world, than most people my age.
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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As an American, I prefer to think of Canada as safe, polite, and stable (unlike SOME countries we could name). If that equals boring to you, reply to the poll in the affirmative. I am not of that opinion; I did not.
most countries are safe, polite (to some extent) and stable.
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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most countries are safe, polite (to some extent) and stable.
It's relative and place-specific. On the whole, I think you would be hard-pressed to find a safer country, overall, than Canada. Well, except after a hockey game.

I spent most of my working life traveling around the world. I would rank these places as the safest:

Japan
Switzerland
Norway
Canada
Oman

And these as the least safe:

Mexico
Argentina
Rumania
Russia
Egypt
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Are you gay? I seem to get into it a lot with gay guys on here.

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Well you know - one thing leads to another....
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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You're kinda right, yes, I used to do the same with Canada as looking at it so idealized. But I stopped, because last time I complimented the country I got called a pothead. So...
And I also know more about it, as well as other places of the world, than most people my age.
I compliment you for wanting to learn more about the country and about its people.. By all means come up and visit anytime you like..
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Old 07-09-2016, 05:49 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I came across this rather rather harsh article (old, from 2007 and no longer hosted directly by the newspaper servers) about a report from the Conference Board of Canada.


It is still hosted on other servers, here is a copy.


Canada a land of mediocrity Conference Board Report
In the U.S. our election choices are between a fraud and a fraud. In Canada your choice was between quiet excellence and showmanship. If Canada is a land of mediocrity (somethint I don't agree with personally) your election choice showed why.
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