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Old 07-24-2016, 11:51 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Oh, okay. Seeing as you're so knowledgeable, what do YOU know about Canada? Where else in Canada have you lived besides Windsor, ON? Where in Canada have you travelled? How much of Canada have YOU experienced?

If your (honest) answers to those questions are what I suspect they likely are, you are in NO position to judge ANY American for their limited knowledge of Canada. Is this yet another example of Canadians who expect something of Americans that they unfortunately don't expect of themselves?
Would you expect a Canadian to know anything more about Nunavut than you know about the North Cascades National Park?
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Oh, okay. Seeing as you're so knowledgeable, what do YOU know about Canada? Where else in Canada have you lived besides Windsor, ON? Where in Canada have you travelled? How much of Canada have YOU experienced?

If your (honest) answers to those questions are what I suspect they likely are, you are in NO position to judge ANY American for their limited knowledge of Canada. Is this yet another example of Canadians who expect something of Americans that they unfortunately don't expect of themselves?
NDG has a good point.

If you add up all the drives I've made in Canada from Point A to Point B, I've driven across Canada at least twice. The things I've seen, and the people with whom I've spoken...you'd be surprised at the places I've passed through, and what I've learned from locals. I don't expect the same of every Canadian, but I'd expect them to have experienced their country more than just living in, say, Toronto and taking an annual vacation outside of Canada. I was always surprised at how many of my Toronto friends had never seen any part of Canada outside of the GTA--but they had been to Florida, Europe, Jamaica, Australia, and so on. They may be experts on Toronto, but they are not experts on Canada, though they thought they were.

But Americans might do well to remember this also. A weekend in Montreal, for example, does not make you an expert on Canada; any more than a Canadian's weekend in New York City makes him or her an expert on the United States. They are both huge countries, with many regional differences, and experiencing one place does not make one an expert on the country as a whole.
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Old 07-25-2016, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Chevy Spoons.......


As my Mum used to say........You can tell an American , but you can't tell them much....


Jim B.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Would you expect a Canadian to know anything more about Nunavut than you know about the North Cascades National Park?
No. But Canadians expect Americans to know more about North Cascades National Park than THEY know about Nanuvit. That's kinda my point.

Oh, and those Americans should be well-versed in Canadian history, geography, and current events, as well. They should have made some effort to have visited Canadian landmarks (the same landmarks that most Canadians haven't made any effort to visit). It is usually Canadians who've barely been out of their home provinces (most Canadians, perhaps) who harshly judge Americans for THEIR lack of knowledge.

I am Canadian, born and raised, jbgusa, and I've lived in the US for a long time. You seem to be one of those Americans who thinks that because you've travelled in Canada a few times, you now have a good understanding of its culture and people. You don't.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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NDG has a good point.

If you add up all the drives I've made in Canada from Point A to Point B, I've driven across Canada at least twice. The things I've seen, and the people with whom I've spoken...you'd be surprised at the places I've passed through, and what I've learned from locals. I don't expect the same of every Canadian, but I'd expect them to have experienced their country more than just living in, say, Toronto and taking an annual vacation outside of Canada. I was always surprised at how many of my Toronto friends had never seen any part of Canada outside of the GTA--but they had been to Florida, Europe, Jamaica, Australia, and so on. They may be experts on Toronto, but they are not experts on Canada, though they thought they were.

But Americans might do well to remember this also. A weekend in Montreal, for example, does not make you an expert on Canada; any more than a Canadian's weekend in New York City makes him or her an expert on the United States. They are both huge countries, with many regional differences, and experiencing one place does not make one an expert on the country as a whole.
Bang on, Chev!
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Old 07-25-2016, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Oh, okay. Seeing as you're so knowledgeable, what do YOU know about Canada? Where else in Canada have you lived besides Windsor, ON? Where in Canada have you travelled? How much of Canada have YOU experienced?

If your (honest) answers to those questions are what I suspect they likely are, you are in NO position to judge ANY American for their limited knowledge of Canada. Is this yet another example of Canadians who expect something of Americans that they unfortunately don't expect of themselves?
I've travelled through much of Canada and lived in Banff and Toronto, what's your point? I'm very knowledgable about Canada and the USA.
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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Nonsense. Canadians like Americans just fine.

What Canadians don't like are individual Americans who, while in Canada:

-- Tell Canadians that they're socialist
-- Tell Canadians that Americans are more free because they can carry guns
-- Tell Canadians that Canada has no freedom of speech
-- Tell Canadians that the US Constitution somehow protects Americans while in Canada
-- Tell Canadians that Canada has never been in a war
-- Tell Canadians that the US protects them militarily
-- Tell Canadians that the US dollar is accepted around the world, then complain when Canadian merchants either reject it or charge a hefty premium for using it
-- Tell English Canadians that they are amazed that we have no French accent
-- Tell Canadians that they have to pay the Queen an annual tribute

All of the above I've heard, and more, all in Canada from individual Americans visiting. But for all that, I've found many more individual Americans are genuinely interested and curious about Canada when they visit. These Americans ask questions in an effort to dispel their ignorance, and Canadians tend to respond in a friendly fashion. But if an American tells us an incorrect fact about us, and asserts it in spite of our protestations to the contrary, we're not going to take it well.
Great post. The American ignorance of the outside world is annoying. Not all Americans of course, but many.
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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I've travelled through much of Canada and lived in Banff and Toronto, what's your point? I'm very knowledgable about Canada and the USA.
My point is clear. And accurate.

As for your having travelled through "much" of Canada and having actually lived in another province? You're a minority among Canadians, especially in Ontario, and I think you know that. I doubt most Windsorites have travelled outside of Ontario, IN Canada, let alone lived anywhere else outside of Southwestern ON, IN Canada.

Of course, you don't have to take my word for it. Go ahead and take an informal survey of your fellow Ontarians/Canadians' travel experience within Canada. I'll bet few of them have seen "much" of Canada, though they've probably been to places like Florida many times. They might even have retired there and own homes there. But they've never bothered to see the beauty of the Rockies and Victoria, or Quebec City and L'Ile-aux-Coudres, or the Maritimes and Peggy's Cove, or even the nation's capital. But they love to talk about American parochialism.

I've said this before: in an apples-to-apples comparison, Americans are far better travelled in the US than Canadians are in Canada. There really IS no comparison, actually.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Great post. The American ignorance of the outside world is annoying. Not all Americans of course, but many.
Canadian ignorance of Canada is annoying. Not all Canadians, of course, but many.

And Canadians don't understand nearly as much about the US as they think. A friend of a friend from Toronto is visiting right now, and some of the comments and criticisms he has openly, happily, and confidently made about the US -- while staying in my home and those of other welcoming Americans -- have been pretty stupid.

FWIW, he hasn't done much travelling in Canada.

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Old 07-25-2016, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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NDG has a good point.

If you add up all the drives I've made in Canada from Point A to Point B, I've driven across Canada at least twice. The things I've seen, and the people with whom I've spoken...you'd be surprised at the places I've passed through, and what I've learned from locals. I don't expect the same of every Canadian, but I'd expect them to have experienced their country more than just living in, say, Toronto and taking an annual vacation outside of Canada. I was always surprised at how many of my Toronto friends had never seen any part of Canada outside of the GTA--but they had been to Florida, Europe, Jamaica, Australia, and so on. They may be experts on Toronto, but they are not experts on Canada, though they thought they were.

But Americans might do well to remember this also. A weekend in Montreal, for example, does not make you an expert on Canada; any more than a Canadian's weekend in New York City makes him or her an expert on the United States. They are both huge countries, with many regional differences, and experiencing one place does not make one an expert on the country as a whole.
Do you think that possibly it's a GTA thing?

Everyone has difference experiences and different circles of friends, but my friends and family here in Vancouver have all travelled across the country, although I admit my Canadian travel is lacking the territories, The Maritimes and Newfoundland/Labrador.
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