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Old 07-25-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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My point is clear. And accurate.

As for your having travelled through "much" of Canada and having actually lived in another province? You're a minority among Canadians, especially in Ontario, and I think you know that. I doubt most Windsorites have travelled outside of Ontario, IN Canada, let alone lived anywhere else outside of Southwestern ON, IN Canada.

Of course, you don't have to take my word for it. Go ahead and take an informal survey of your fellow Ontarians/Canadians' travel experience within Canada. I'll bet few of them have seen "much" of Canada, though they've probably been to places like Florida many times. They might even have retired there and own homes there. But they've never bothered to see the beauty of the Rockies and Victoria, or Quebec City and L'Ile-aux-Coudres, or the Maritimes and Peggy's Cove, or even the nation's capital. But they love to talk about American parochialism.

I've said this before: in an apples-to-apples comparison, Americans are far better travelled in the US than Canadians are in Canada. There really IS no comparison, actually.
A lot of Canadians travel throughout the country. Do you know how many jobs there are that require travel? Many business workers travel within the country for work. I've known many who have been major centres in Canada for leisure as well like Toronto and Vancouver. Not only that, but the chances of a person who lived in Windsor their whole life of moving across the country for better job prospects is really high. Before the oil crash, numerous easterners moved all the west to Alberta for jobs. I think it's wrong to assume Canadians don't travel within Canada.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Nonsense. Canadians like Americans just fine.

What Canadians don't like are individual Americans who, while in Canada:

-- Tell Canadians that they're socialist
-- Tell Canadians that Americans are more free because they can carry guns
-- Tell Canadians that Canada has no freedom of speech
-- Tell Canadians that the US Constitution somehow protects Americans while in Canada
-- Tell Canadians that Canada has never been in a war
-- Tell Canadians that the US protects them militarily
-- Tell Canadians that the US dollar is accepted around the world, then complain when Canadian merchants either reject it or charge a hefty premium for using it
-- Tell English Canadians that they are amazed that we have no French accent
-- Tell Canadians that they have to pay the Queen an annual tribute

All of the above I've heard, and more, all in Canada from individual Americans visiting. But for all that, I've found many more individual Americans are genuinely interested and curious about Canada when they visit. These Americans ask questions in an effort to dispel their ignorance, and Canadians tend to respond in a friendly fashion. But if an American tells us an incorrect fact about us, and asserts it in spite of our protestations to the contrary, we're not going to take it well.
Ya, I've had those as well over the years.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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A lot of Canadians travel throughout the country. Do you know how many jobs there are that require travel? Many business workers travel within the country for work. I've known many who have been major centres in Canada for leisure as well like Toronto and Vancouver. Not only that, but the chances of a person who lived in Windsor their whole life of moving across the country for better job prospects is really high. Before the oil crash, numerous easterners moved all the west to Alberta for jobs. I think it's wrong to assume Canadians don't travel within Canada.
Might be her circle of friends.

Right now of my friends travelling in Canada this summer are in Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal, Bathurst, NB and one just got back from Halifax and area.

The rest are either here or in Europe.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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A lot of Canadians travel throughout the country. Do you know how many jobs there are that require travel? Many business workers travel within the country for work. I've known many who have been major centres in Canada for leisure as well like Toronto and Vancouver. Not only that, but the chances of a person who lived in Windsor their whole life of moving across the country for better job prospects is really high. Before the oil crash, numerous easterners moved all the west to Alberta for jobs. I think it's wrong to assume Canadians don't travel within Canada.
Sorry, work travel doesn't count. As a rule, people don't CHOOSE to travel for work.

Besides, the same argument could be said about Americans, and, once again, Americans would win that contest. Think of all the American companies that have offices, plants, and stores outside of the US, in Canada and abroad. They employ millions of locals, of course. They also employ many Americans who move to those countries, perhaps long-term, to help operate those foreign locations. You are FAR more likely to meet Americans who have lived and worked abroad, sometimes multiple times in multiple countries and often with kids in tow, than you are Canadians who've done the same. I have met many Americans who have.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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This blog written by an American gives, I think, some valid thoughts on Americans and travel, especially not travelling abroad.

"Moreover, once we enter the work force, we are essentially trapped. That’s because a typical American work contract provides little vacation times (usually 2 weeks per year). So inevitably, it becomes harder and harder to travel with every passing year."

Why Don't Americans Travel? Here are 7 Reasons... - The Hungry Partier

In the end, which is better? Personally I think in a perfect world people should do both international and domestic travelling. However if I had to choose, I'd rather have a population that had a more worldly view, than one, that doesn't see much outside it's borders.
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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This blog written by an American gives, I think, some valid thoughts on Americans and travel, especially not travelling abroad.

"Moreover, once we enter the work force, we are essentially trapped. Thatís because a typical American work contract provides little vacation times (usually 2 weeks per year). So inevitably, it becomes harder and harder to travel with every passing year."

Why Don't Americans Travel? Here are 7 Reasons... - The Hungry Partier

In the end, which is better? Personally I think in a perfect world people should do both international and domestic travelling. However if I had to choose, I'd rather have a population that had a more worldly view, than one, that doesn't see much outside it's borders.
While Canadians might be better travelled abroad than Americans, they are not WELL travelled abroad, outside of, say, the US, Cuba, Mexico, and the Dominican Republic. Typical winter destinations for Canadians. Some Canadians ARE worldy travellers (as are some Americans). My brother is. My cousin in Halifax is. My good friend in Montreal is. A few regulars here in the Canadian forum are. But most Canadians aren't. You might believe otherwise, Nat, but I don't.
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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While Canadians might be better travelled abroad than Americans, they are not WELL travelled abroad, outside of, say, the US, Cuba, Mexico, and the Dominican Republic. Typical winter destinations for Canadians. Some Canadians ARE worldy travellers (as are some Americans). My brother is. My cousin in Halifax is. My good friend in Montreal is. A few regulars here in the Canadian forum are. But most Canadians aren't. You might believe otherwise, Nat, but I don't.
From the Canadians I know, that seems to be the case for them as well. I do know one in Toronto who travels all across the world, but most others I know have not been outside of North America more than once, if that. Does anyone has the passport stats for Canada before needing one to cross the border to the U.S.? While I am sure it is still higher than the US rate for passports, I'd imagine it was a bit lower. Isn't Canada not much better with vacation days as well?
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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While Canadians might be better travelled abroad than Americans, they are not WELL travelled abroad, outside of, say, the US, Cuba, Mexico, and the Dominican Republic. Typical winter destinations for Canadians. Some Canadians ARE worldy travellers (as are some Americans). My brother is. My cousin in Halifax is. My good friend in Montreal is. A few regulars here in the Canadian forum are. But most Canadians aren't. You might believe otherwise, Nat, but I don't.
I still think you are basing this solely on your circle of friends, as I am on mine. My experience is different.

What we need are some hard stats, not opinions.
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:37 PM
 
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I found this one interesting:

Comparing Canadian and International Travel Habits | Voice of Toronto
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Old 07-25-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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A lot of things to consider when looking at a list like this. Canmore for example. It's really not Canmore that people are really interested in, it's Banff. It's just Canmore is an excellent alternative when Banff is booked or too expensive for some.

Also the difference in the domestic and international standings may have a lot to do with closeness. Domestically by population, Montreal is a lot closer for millions of Canadians than Vancouver is, but international travellers favour Vancouver over Montreal.
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