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I find your negativity towards other posters astounding. I have some telephone friends from the Vancouver area, Alberta and Manitoba that have spent lots of time in other parts of Canada.
I don't doubt that the people you know in Vancouver have spent lots of time in other parts of Canada. Did I say that NO Canadians have travelled Canada? I did not. I said that Canadians, generally speaking, are less well-travelled in Canada than Americans are in the US. I said that many Canadians are more likely to travel the US (that stupid republic to the south) than they are the country they claim to love so much.
I think Nat and Chevy could be on to something when they suggest that Ontarians, compared to people in other parts of the country, might be less likely to travel to other parts of Canada. That has been my observation, as well.
What you call "negativity" is actually a celebration of the beauty of Canada and my complete inability to understand why Canadians don't CHOOSE to travel Canada more often than they do. You fail to see that my opinions are in fact pretty pro Canadian. Moreover, I KNOW that my opinions (or the tenor of those opinions) are no more "negative" than what a couple of regular posters often say about Canada. They're certainly no more negative that what other regular posters here - who have never lived in the US - often make about the US. They're no more negative than what I sometimes see from Americans - who've never lived in Canada - who post either in the Canadian threads or elsewhere on CD, about Canadian "socialism" or its "inferior" "socialist" healthcare, for example.
The negativity I really love, though, is the kind I've seen posted by clueless Americans who rant in other threads about Obama, Clinton, and Democrats in general. They're the type who voted for Bush, McCain/Palin and Mitt the Twit Romney, but then actually, unbelievably!, come into the Canadian threads to talk about how much they love Canada, a country that is the product of the very same kind of liberal policies these same ranters seem to despise Obama, Clinton and other Democrats for. Negative? You're not kidding.
And, I'm sorry, but what I find astounding is your attempt to equate your experience as a visitor to Canada and in conversations with "telephone friends" to that of people who have actually LIVED in Canada. I lived in Canada for the first 31 years of my life, in my home province of Ontario and a couple of others. I completed public school and my undergraduate degree there. I have travelled, by choice, through much of Canada. Half of my family and many of my lifelong friends still live there. Believe it or not, I do know a little about Canada. Believe it or not, perhaps even more than you do.
Which "remarks" did I make that are "nasty"? My posts can be tough, as are those of other posters here, but not nasty. I don't do nasty. I've said before, the regulars around here are hardly wallflowers. Canadians are a tough lot. They can take it.
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That you are chastising a Canadian for not knowing about remote areas
I pointed out how funny it is that Canadians routinely "chastise" Americans for not knowing enough about Canada, while their own knowledge of their own country isn't as good as it could and should be. And you, an American, feel entitled to chastise me, a Canadian born and raised, for expressing an opinion on my home country, IN the Canadian forum.
However, if you'd prefer that I join in on the "Americans are stupid" mantra, then okay. I can do that.
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I pointed out how funny it is that Canadians routinely "chastise" Americans for not knowing enough about Canada, while their own knowledge of their own country isn't as good as it could and should be. And you, an American, feel entitled to chastise me, a Canadian born and raised, for expressing an opinion on my home country, IN the Canadian forum.
However, if you'd prefer that I join in on the "Americans are stupid" mantra, then okay. I can do that.
This is in response to all of your last three posts. I am pro-American and pro-Canadian. I think both New World countries learned from Europe's bad experience of nonstop war and built something beautiful, peaceful and constructive. I also think that most of Europe's good brains drained here starting as soon as our countries had opened for business and settled their borders.
Is it also within your pervue to acknowledge that if visitors to a foreign country experiencing the misfortune of encountering an azzhat with a badge, makes their mind up about that country based upon that limited contact, they might be making a mistake?
It's definitely not within anyone's "pervue", although it is likely in someone's purview.
As for your having travelled through "much" of Canada and having actually lived in another province? You're a minority among Canadians, especially in Ontario, and I think you know that. I doubt most Windsorites have travelled outside of Ontario, IN Canada, let alone lived anywhere else outside of Southwestern ON, IN Canada.
Of course, you don't have to take my word for it. Go ahead and take an informal survey of your fellow Ontarians/Canadians' travel experience within Canada. I'll bet few of them have seen "much" of Canada, though they've probably been to places like Florida many times. They might even have retired there and own homes there. But they've never bothered to see the beauty of the Rockies and Victoria, or Quebec City and L'Ile-aux-Coudres, or the Maritimes and Peggy's Cove, or even the nation's capital. But they love to talk about American parochialism.
I've said this before: in an apples-to-apples comparison, Americans are far better travelled in the US than Canadians are in Canada. There really IS no comparison, actually.
This is just silly, of coarse there are many Windsorites that have travelled outside of Ontario. I personally know many that have travelled or lived out west, the East Coast, Quebec and even the Yukon, as well as much of the United States, Europe and Asia.
I don't know where you are getting your ideas from, but they are very presumptuous and they are wrong! You must have hung out with some very provincial people when you lived in Canada.
This is just silly, of coarse there are many Windsorites that have travelled outside of Ontario. I personally know many that have travelled or lived out west, the East Coast, Quebec and even the Yukon, as well as much of the United States, Europe and Asia.
I don't know where you are getting your ideas from, but they are very presumptuous and they are wrong! You must have hung out with some very provincial people when you lived in Canada.
Without responding to every post in the thread, I'll say this:
For the purposes of what is being debated, Canadians don't have to be little-travelled in Canada or have zero knowledge about Canada in order to "lose" this argument. They just have to be less travelled and knowledgeable about their own country than Americans are about theirs.
While this is a bit hard to prove without anecdotes, there are some facts out there.
When one considers lower passport ownership among Americans (half that of Canada?) and the fact that Canadians spend a significant proportion of their time and money travelling in the U.S. (and the Caribbean), whereas Americans spend less time travelling outside their country, it's likely obvious Americans are travelling more in their country than Canadians are travelling in theirs.
Unless Canadians are basically travelling all the time and visiting the rest of Canada PLUS the United States PLUS the Caribbean.
Which is virtually impossible.
Similarly, when it comes to knowledge of country: Americans consume primarily US stuff when it comes to books, TV, movies, etc.
Canadians by and large consume a bit of Canadian stuff and also tons of American stuff. The American stuff they consume subtracts from the "brain time" they devote to Canadian knowledge.
Again, unless average Canadians are devoting two or three times more brain time to stuff in general, it's hard to see how such a huge share devoted to American stuff can still lead to Canadians knowing as much about Canada as Americans know about the US.
Everyone has difference experiences and different circles of friends, but my friends and family here in Vancouver have all travelled across the country, although I admit my Canadian travel is lacking the territories, The Maritimes and Newfoundland/Labrador.
The absolute worst for knowledge of Canada beyond their province are Quebecers. The difference between Quebec and the ROC is that nobody in Quebec denies it. Or really cares.
Quebecers OTOH tend to be quite knowledgeable about their province, its culture and history. Moreso than other Canadians will be about the wider country, or even within their own province.
Just as an example, Montrealers can easily name you the mayor of Quebec City. Or even Saguenay.
How many Torontonians can name the mayor of Ottawa, which is in the same province?
Without responding to every post in the thread, I'll say this:
For the purposes of what is being debated, Canadians don't have to be little-travelled in Canada or have zero knowledge about Canada in order to "lose" this argument. They just have to be less travelled and knowledgeable about their own country than Americans are about theirs.
While this is a bit hard to prove without anecdotes, there are some facts out there.
When one considers lower passport ownership among Americans (half that of Canada?) and the fact that Canadians spend a significant proportion of their time and money travelling in the U.S. (and the Caribbean), whereas Americans spend less time travelling outside their country, it's likely obvious Americans are travelling more in their country than Canadians are travelling in theirs.
Unless Canadians are basically travelling all the time and visiting the rest of Canada PLUS the United States PLUS the Caribbean.
Which is virtually impossible.
Similarly, when it comes to knowledge of country: Americans consume primarily US stuff when it comes to books, TV, movies, etc.
Canadians by and large consume a bit of Canadian stuff and also tons of American stuff. The American stuff they consume subtracts from the "brain time" they devote to Canadian knowledge.
Again, unless average Canadians are devoting two or three times more brain time to stuff in general, it's hard to see how such a huge share devoted to American stuff can still lead to Canadians knowing as much about Canada as Americans know about the US.
Lol, all I said was that the Americans that were interviewed on those shows were stupid, not that all Americans are stupid or not well travelled, that was Miss Thing making her usual assumptions about what other people have supposedly said, so I'm not really sure why any of this is directed at me, Christ, my husband is American and I have nothing against Americans.
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