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Old 05-30-2015, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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We all know that multiculturalism failed in the UK, in the Netherlands, in Germany, as well as in many other countries that tried. Yet, until recently (and it's debatable whether it still works as it had), Canada was one of the biggest, if not the biggest, success of multiculturalism (or the most publicized) in the world.

So what did we do differently from other countries that at least attempted to implement multiculturalism?
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Old 05-30-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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Anyone who really understands German history and culture will know that it's long been a truly multicultural society - just not by the definition of post-colonialist leftists, who like to see large populations of "whites" as homogeneous rather than taking the time to actually understand the often very diverse divisions within that population.
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Old 05-30-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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Anyone who really understands German history and culture will know that it's long been a truly multicultural society - just not by the definition of post-colonialist leftists, who like to see large populations of "whites" as homogeneous rather than taking the time to actually understand the often very diverse divisions within that population.
Then how do you explain Merkel's statement?

Angela Merkel: German multiculturalism has 'utterly failed' | World news | The Guardian
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Old 05-30-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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We did this

Canadian Multiculturalism Act

I'm sure people will argue about whether Canada has been successful and the reasons why, but I'm one that thinks overall it has been successful in Canada.
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Old 05-30-2015, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I don't see how Canada has done any better with multiculturalism than Germany or the UK or the Netherlands. I haven't been to the UK, but it sounds just as civil as the other two. Tons of people of different colour and ethnicity floating around Western Europe as of late, and I am simply not seeing the issue that some people claim is so imminent.

I mean, it is true that some minority groups tend to be stuck in niches, and sit in lower income brackets, but how is that necessarily harming anyone or the general society? In fact, I think that's a major characteristic of Toronto that seems to lack in major European cities. There's hardly a Koreatown or Little Portugal of Amsterdam or Berlin, as far as I know. If you point to the Turks in Germany, that's not really a comparable situation, and they seem to be a non-issue anyways.
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Old 05-30-2015, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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https://www.google.ca/#q=race+riots+...evid=206419838

https://www.google.ca/#q=race+riots+uk+1980s

Canada

https://www.google.ca/#q=race+riots+canada
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Old 05-30-2015, 03:52 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Maybe because Canada is anyone's country.

Countries like Germany and the UK have long histories compared to Canada.
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Old 05-30-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Maybe because Canada is anyone's country.

Countries like Germany and the UK have long histories compared to Canada.
Our history though is filled with racism. So I'm not sure that's it. I personally believe it's because Canada made an effort to push multiculturalism as a positive.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the Multiculturalism Act was enacted four years after Canada's 100 birthday.
A time when Canada was reflecting on what it was and what we wanted to be. We were one of the 1st countries to do so.
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Old 05-30-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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I don't think you can really say it failed in the UK, The Netherlands or Germany (first time hearing about Germany). There are a lot of complaints and issues with immigration in those countries, but I'm not sure if you can flat out say they "failed". Can really only tell if something like that failed when we're far enough removed to look back in hindsight with less bias.

I just think Canadians tend to not blame a lot of their problems on minorities as much as other countries. They embrace multiculturalism, and they have their flagship city in Toronto to look as an example that it is not a bad thing.
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Old 05-31-2015, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Maybe because Canada is anyone's country.

Countries like Germany and the UK have long histories compared to Canada.
This certainly has something to do with it.

Even most new world countries with high immigration and ethnic diversity are not an open clean slate like Canada advertises itself to be.


Note also that not all Canadians agree with this approach.
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