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Old 06-04-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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India routinely gets slagged for the poor driving condition and high accident and fatality rates, but looking at the numbers Canadians should be so smug and superior. For example, in 2011 there were 105725 total traffic fatalities in India. Wow, what a huge number, right? Well, India in 2011 had a population of about 1.221 BILLION people, in a fairly confined land mass. Canada, on the other hand, had only 34.34 million in on of the largest countries in the world with lots of space (even in urban areas). The number of total deaths was 2023. Nowhere near, right, so what's the big deal? If you take this figure and then factor that India's population is about 35.56 times bigger than Canada's, what you get is an equivalent death total of 71938. That's pretty shocking if you ask me. If people in Canada were dying at the rate they are in motor vehicle crashes of just about any other thing, there would be public hysteria about it. But nobody wants to do anything about this issue because it has to do with their precious cars and motorcycles. In fact, the fact that there are so many bad drivers on the roads in Canada is considered humorous and entertaining by many.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:02 PM
 
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You also have to consider that of the 1.221 billion people in India what percentage are drivers vs that of Canada. If you times Canada's population of 34.34 million by 35.56 to match India's (assuming your math is correct), than i'm pretty certain you would not have the same percentage of drivers in Canada as we have now simply because we'd be less affluent and have far more poor who couldn't afford to drive.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:09 PM
 
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India routinely gets slagged for the poor driving condition and high accident and fatality rates, but looking at the numbers Canadians should be so smug and superior. For example, in 2011 there were 105725 total traffic fatalities in India. Wow, what a huge number, right? Well, India in 2011 had a population of about 1.221 BILLION people, in a fairly confined land mass. Canada, on the other hand, had only 34.34 million in on of the largest countries in the world with lots of space (even in urban areas). The number of total deaths was 2023. Nowhere near, right, so what's the big deal? If you take this figure and then factor that India's population is about 35.56 times bigger than Canada's, what you get is an equivalent death total of 71938. That's pretty shocking if you ask me. If people in Canada were dying at the rate they are in motor vehicle crashes of just about any other thing, there would be public hysteria about it. But nobody wants to do anything about this issue because it has to do with their precious cars and motorcycles. In fact, the fact that there are so many bad drivers on the roads in Canada is considered humorous and entertaining by many.

You need to take the percentage of the population that actually drive a car in India and compare to the same percentage in Canada and the math would go out of the door....in addition to that you need to factor in the condition of the roads, markings, signals, etc...You are comparing comparing apples to oranges.


That said, in my experience Vancouver has probably on average the worst drivers of any developed country cities I ever visited.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:16 PM
 
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You need to take the percentage of the population that actually drive a car in India and compare to the same percentage in Canada and the math would go out of the door....in addition to that you need to factor in the condition of the roads, markings, signals, etc...You are comparing comparing apples to oranges.


That said, in my experience Vancouver has probably on average the worst drivers of any developed country cities I ever visited.
What is there an echo in here lol....

In red- well naturally its Vancouver... Anyway head to Detroit and get back to me!!
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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What is there an echo in here lol....

In red- well naturally its Vancouver... Anyway head to Detroit and get back to me!!

Never been and no desire to go frankly....


Olympia WA is fairly bad as well by the way....
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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Never been and no desire to go frankly....


Olympia WA is fairly bad as well by the way....
Fair enough i'm just saying go there and drive and I think based on your experience the Vancouver observation would quickly change lol.. Vancouver is probably pretty innocuous from a driving perspective in Canamerica...

Anyway I watched Ice Road truckers in India - I think i'll pass driving there completely......
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:47 PM
 
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:53 PM
 
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Claaaaaaassic Ken!
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:16 PM
 
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Fair enough i'm just saying go there and drive and I think based on your experience the Vancouver observation would quickly change lol.. Vancouver is probably pretty innocuous from a driving perspective in Canamerica...
Just to make sure we are on the same page, the problem for me is not traffic per se...Vancouver traffic is not that bad compared obviously with the very large cities in the US or even Toronto.

LA or SF traffic is notoriously horrendous so is NYC...the problem in Van is lot of people that have no freaking clue about how to drive, slow to react and with poor situational awareness.


You can be in an akmost lawless (regarding traffic) city but with people that know very well how to drive and aware of their surroundings (a typical example is some Southern Italy big towns, Greece or Turkey)..you just need to "get into the mindset" and go with the flow.
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Old 06-04-2015, 08:01 PM
 
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