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Old 07-03-2015, 05:27 PM
 
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Because for French Quebecois Canada is not our country and they broke our agreements.
Feel free to leave.
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Feel free to leave.
This is the frustration for some of the more vocal separatists in that they would like to separate from Canada yet there isn't enough support as a greater majority of Quebecers want to stay and are far more moderate than they are. So they can't really leave unless they find citizenship in another country which isn't exactly easy.. I understand their frustration being in the minority but don't discount their tactics to stir up discontent with not only the rest of Quebec but the rest of Canada including being endlessly dismissive of Canada and Canadians as a whole in terms of our culture, values, society, identity and portraying modern day anglo-Canadians using historical frames of reference and mentality as oppressors, colonists, you name it - nothing is off limits tactically in order to achieve a goal but just remember they are the minority and don't represent the majority view of the R.O.Q.
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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I agree they are in the minority.
It just drives me nuts that we live in the greatest country on earth by most measures and there are still people like this.
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:08 AM
 
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The problem with Quebec is over the last 40-50 years its formed itself into a distinct country of francophones (Quebec) within a country of Anglohones (ROC) I think its high time for Quebec to accept the fact it no longer culturally represents the mother country of Canada in a bi-cultural manner and a birth of a new nation of Quebec is now the obvious/logical course of action.IMO.
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Old 07-04-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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The problem with Quebec is over the last 40-50 years its formed itself into a distinct country of francophones (Quebec) within a country of Anglohones (ROC) I think its high time for Quebec to accept the fact it no longer culturally represents the mother country of Canada in a bi-cultural manner and a birth of a new nation of Quebec is now the obvious/logical course of action.IMO.
No...what happened was over the last 40-50 years is that Quebec shifted from a distinct country of Francophones dominated by a minority of anglophones to a distinct country of Francophones with a greater degree of authority over its own affairs for the first time in centuries. Quebec never represented Canada in a bi-cultural manner, rather the relationship between Francophones and anglos has historically always been one-sided.
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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So whats your plan Lex? to remain a francophone minority in a Canadian province presumably under the brutal domination and suppression administered by your Canadian Anglophone overlords or Take your much vaunted francophone culture and build your own country?..
Also interesting that you point out how the minority of Anglophones in Quebec can so dominate Quebecs Francophone culture for so long,how do you explain that as usually its the majority that dominates the minority..
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Nation du Québec
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No...what happened was over the last 40-50 years is that Quebec shifted from a distinct country of Francophones dominated by a minority of anglophones to a distinct country of Francophones with a greater degree of authority over its own affairs for the first time in centuries. Quebec never represented Canada in a bi-cultural manner, rather the relationship between Francophones and anglos has historically always been one-sided.
This is said all too well. It is a surprise that some believe that Canada was an equal relationship of English and French. The reason why Québec independence has arose in the 60's was exactly because this was not the reality. They liked to claim this, but francophones knew better and acted to make a change.

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The problem with Quebec is over the last 40-50 years its formed itself into a distinct country of francophones (Quebec) within a country of Anglohones (ROC) I think its high time for Quebec to accept the fact it no longer culturally represents the mother country of Canada in a bi-cultural manner and a birth of a new nation of Quebec is now the obvious/logical course of action.IMO.
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So whats your plan Lex? to remain a francophone minority in a Canadian province presumably under the brutal domination and suppression administered by your Canadian Anglophone overlords or Take your much vaunted francophone culture and build your own country?..
Also interesting that you point out how the minority of Anglophones in Quebec can so dominate Quebecs Francophone culture for so long,how do you explain that as usually its the majority that dominates the minority..
Really Jambo do you think we have not heard it all before? It comes across like a embittered colonialist disgruntled at the collapse of his domination.
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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Really Jambo do you think we have not heard it all before? It comes across like a embittered colonialist disgruntled at the collapse of his domination.
This domination you speak of has not been in effect (If it ever was) since the late 50s, disgruntled? i settled here in Montreal some 40 years ago, i have no colonialist baggage.\ its just for as long as i've been here its been a never ending winefest from Quebecs francophones about their poor hard done by lot in life which is puzzling when separating seems such a convenient way to solve all your problems with English Canada.
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Old 07-04-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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This domination you speak of has not been in effect (If it ever was) since the late 50s, disgruntled? i settled here in Montreal some 40 years ago, i have no colonialist baggage.\ its just for as long as i've been here its been a never ending winefest from Quebecs francophones about their poor hard done by lot in life which is puzzling when separating seems such a convenient way to solve all your problems with English Canada.
But; but, then who would they be able to whine at and blame for their self caused issues?
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Old 07-04-2015, 04:18 PM
 
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But; but, then who would they be able to whine at and blame for their self caused issues?
Anglophones in Montreal.
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