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Old 07-17-2015, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Halethorphe, MD
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I'm a 27 y/o American male currently living in Philadelphia, PA. I plan to relocate when my lease is up and have been kicking around the idea of moving to Calgary or Edmonton. I'm a self employed professional poker player, and moving to Canada will be advantageous for me as online poker is legal.

Is it possible for an American to relocate to Canada seeking a year minimum stay? I've done some research and from what I've read you can stay max 180 days per year, afterwards you can apply for an extension. How often do they grant extensions?

There's the option of attempting to obtain a visa, if i go that route a study visa is the most viable option as I have a non traditional job.

Additional information in case it's pertinent:
No criminal record
High school education
Monolingual (english)
Have never visited Canada

 
Old 07-18-2015, 06:50 AM
 
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I'm a 27 y/o American male currently living in Philadelphia, PA. I plan to relocate when my lease is up and have been kicking around the idea of moving to Calgary or Edmonton. I'm a self employed professional poker player, and moving to Canada will be advantageous for me as online poker is legal.

Is it possible for an American to relocate to Canada seeking a year minimum stay? I've done some research and from what I've read you can stay max 180 days per year, afterwards you can apply for an extension. How often do they grant extensions?

There's the option of attempting to obtain a visa, if i go that route a study visa is the most viable option as I have a non traditional job.

Additional information in case it's pertinent:
No criminal record
High school education
Monolingual (english)
Have never visited Canada
You can sure say that again!

This should be interesting and although I cannot for the life of me anticipate the kind of response you'd receive from the CBSAgencies to ANY of their normal questions, I'm rooting for you.

Tax reporting is going to be a thorny issue and of concern for you as an American citizen due to two things; IRS compelling you to report ALL income from all sources, foreign and domestic, along with online poker winnings being of questionable status vis--vis income and taxation rules from either country.

I'm going to follow this one with interest.

Good luck.
 
Old 07-18-2015, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Halethorphe, MD
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, its obviously a very unique situation. I actually think i might be better off not mentioning my profession and claiming I'm moving into Canada just to go to school. How stringent is Canada as far as student visas? It stands to reason that Canada is looking for guests who have resources and cab contribute positively to the economy, not unemployed students.

Taxes are aways tricky; I'll definitely need to consult a professional. Here's a simple one: Does an American citizen earning income in Canada owe taxes to both governments?
 
Old 07-18-2015, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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lizardblizzard03 in the Montreal forum did this (moved to Canada as a visitor to play online poker)
 
Old 07-18-2015, 11:57 PM
 
Location: British Columbia ♥ 🍁 ♥
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lizardblizzard03 in the Montreal forum did this (moved to Canada as a visitor to play online poker)
Yes he did, but he had to return to New York after his 6 months was up and I think when he tried to return to Canada again he was permanently denied entry back into Canada. Somebody here (I don't remember who) said he was posting on a different forum under a different name and was doing his online poker thing in (I think) Mexico now. If I recall correctly.

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Old 07-19-2015, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Halethorphe, MD
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Yes he did, but he had to return to New York after his 6 months was up and I think when he tried to return to Canada again he was permanently denied entry back into Canada. Somebody here (I don't remember who) said he was posting on a different forum under a different name and was doing his online poker thing in (I think) Mexico now. If I recall correctly.

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Do you know why he was denied entry? My situation is slightly different, as I play in casinos.

If moving into Canada to play poker is frowned upon by the Canadian government, I'll definitely omit the info and give another reason for moving
 
Old 07-19-2015, 02:16 AM
 
Location: British Columbia ♥ 🍁 ♥
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Do you know why he was denied entry? My situation is slightly different, as I play in casinos.

If moving into Canada to play poker is frowned upon by the Canadian government, I'll definitely omit the info and give another reason for moving
I don't know why but if you look up his posts and read them it might give you an idea. We never heard back from him here on the forum again after he didn't return to Canada.

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Old 07-19-2015, 03:04 AM
 
Location: State of Grace
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, its obviously a very unique situation. I actually think i might be better off not mentioning my profession and claiming I'm moving into Canada just to go to school. How stringent is Canada as far as student visas? It stands to reason that Canada is looking for guests who have resources and cab contribute positively to the economy, not unemployed students.

Taxes are aways tricky; I'll definitely need to consult a professional. Here's a simple one: Does an American citizen earning income in Canada owe taxes to both governments?

Tell the Canadian government that you're a tourist, which you essentially are. It isn't at all difficult to get an extension to your visitor's visa. If you're required to pay taxes on what you win at poker games then pay 'em to the IRS. I'm sure that most poker players don't think of their winnings as income....

If you're earning your funds solely from the Net then you aren't technically working in Canada.

If you don't have a registered business anywhere and are only an individual, there's no need to report your earnings as anything other than personal income, if, indeed, income from playing poker is taxable. (Is it? I wouldn't know.)

DH and I own and run a Canadian business or two, but if we happen to be in the States (or anywhere else) when people order from our online store, we pay no attention to where we are and pay only Canadian income tax.

Hope this helps,


Mahrie.
 
Old 07-19-2015, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Halethorphe, MD
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Tell the Canadian government that you're a tourist, which you essentially are. It isn't at all difficult to get an extension to your visitor's visa. If you're required to pay taxes on what you win at poker games then pay 'em to the IRS. I'm sure that most poker players don't think of their winnings as income....

If you're earning your funds solely from the Net then you aren't technically working in Canada.

If you don't have a registered business anywhere and are only an individual, there's no need to report your earnings as anything other than personal income, if, indeed, income from playing poker is taxable. (Is it? I wouldn't know.)

DH and I own and run a Canadian business or two, but if we happen to be in the States (or anywhere else) when people order from our online store, we pay no attention to where we are and pay only Canadian income tax.

Hope this helps,


Mahrie.
Not playing online; I'll be playing in casinos.

Whether or not gambling winnings are taxable varies by country; I know they're taxable in the US, not sure about Canada.

If you recieve an extensive on your tourist visa are you alloted another 6 months?
 
Old 07-19-2015, 04:50 AM
 
Location: State of Grace
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Not playing online; I'll be playing in casinos.

Whether or not gambling winnings are taxable varies by country; I know they're taxable in the US, not sure about Canada.

If you recieve an extensive on your tourist visa are you alloted another 6 months?

I imagine that'll depend on the political climate. In a relatively stable and peaceful reality, you should have no trouble obtaining up to a year's extension, if you want it. The States has always been charitable that way too, at least in my experience. (DH and I lived in Aspen for years.)


Mahrie.
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