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Old 08-04-2015, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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Newfoundland is now the first Canadian province to replace the provincial student loan system entirely with grants. This means that the portion of Newfoundland's tuition that would be paid to the province is no longer the onus of the student.

Granted, federal loans still make up much of tuition, but this is a great start and a totally unexpected move from myself.

I'm really excited about this and I hope it influences other provinces to rethink how post secondary education should be funded. I know Newfoundland has a very manageable population, especially in terms of undergraduates, and it's probably easier to fund a couple thousand students over a couple hundred thousand in Ontario, but I'm optimistic.

Provincial student loans now replaced with grants in N.L. - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
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Old 08-05-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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Nobody wants to comment? This is pretty monumental.
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:34 AM
 
Location: OK
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Just now saw this. I think it is fantastic and am a proud honorary Newf.
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:44 AM
 
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Seems a great move to have tax payers foot the bill for tuition but the core idea seems to be for these students to remain in Newfoundland and in some way enhance the provinces economical infrastructure.Is this a realistic objective? as i know several people from Nfld who have moved to other parts of Canada telling me its tough to make living on the rock.
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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I think it sets a good precedent, but on the other hand, the immediate impact may be questionable. All the top universities are in Ontario/Montreal so I'm not sure how many students this would actually benefit.

On the other hand, I think it could be great for those going to community college or trade schools in Newfoundland - and the skills learned there could probably be much more applicable locally than some MS or JD degree from UofT and McGill.
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Old 08-12-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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I think it sets a good precedent, but on the other hand, the immediate impact may be questionable. All the top universities are in Ontario/Montreal so I'm not sure how many students this would actually benefit.

On the other hand, I think it could be great for those going to community college or trade schools in Newfoundland - and the skills learned there could probably be much more applicable locally than some MS or JD degree from UofT and McGill.
Canada has only so many people and only so many universities. There are maybe six leading English-language universities in the area you contemplate: Queen's, McGill, U of T, Waterloo, Western, and perhaps York. There are some very fine universities elsewhere in Canada. UBC and the University of Alberta come to mind. Wouldn't they make the cut of "top universities"?

Also, a lousy degree in a useless arts discipline is likely of equal value whether it's awarded by UPEI, by MUN, or by U of T.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Canada has only so many people and only so many universities. There are maybe six leading English-language universities in the area you contemplate: Queen's, McGill, U of T, Waterloo, Western, and perhaps York. There are some very fine universities elsewhere in Canada. UBC and the University of Alberta come to mind. Wouldn't they make the cut of "top universities"?

Also, a lousy degree in a useless arts discipline is likely of equal value whether it's awarded by UPEI, by MUN, or by U of T.
Agreed - I'd add Dalhousie University in Halifax to the list.. My friend is an Industrial Engineer and graduated there.. He's got a real plum job with P&G and makes really really good money.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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Agreed - I'd add Dalhousie University in Halifax to the list.. My friend is an Industrial Engineer and graduated there.. He's got a real plum job with P&G and makes really really good money.
As with the reputation of any Canadian university, Dal's reputation varies by discipline and region. It has good name recognition because it's an old and venerated institution, but it isn't the leading university that it once was. Not that it matters when folks manage to land good jobs out of there. (I think its engineering programmes are likely pretty good. The Technical University of Nova Scotia, which was merged into Dal some years ago, always had a pretty good reputation on the East Coast.)

Good on your pal!
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:17 PM
 
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As with the reputation of any Canadian university, Dal's reputation varies by discipline and region. It has good name recognition because it's an old and venerated institution, but it isn't the leading university that it once was. Not that it matters when folks manage to land good jobs out of there. (I think its engineering programmes are likely pretty good. The Technical University of Nova Scotia, which was merged into Dal some years ago, always had a pretty good reputation on the East Coast.)

Good on your pal!
Yeah even Memorial Uni in Newfoundland would be the place to go if you want to attend the Marine institute and related disciplines to those fields of study.. I mean it has full ships bridge simulators - pretty damned cool and sure beats an arts degree
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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Canada has only so many people and only so many universities. There are maybe six leading English-language universities in the area you contemplate: Queen's, McGill, U of T, Waterloo, Western, and perhaps York. There are some very fine universities elsewhere in Canada. UBC and the University of Alberta come to mind. Wouldn't they make the cut of "top universities"?

Also, a lousy degree in a useless arts discipline is likely of equal value whether it's awarded by UPEI, by MUN, or by U of T.
Of course reputation matters. You really think people pay hundreds of thousands in tuition to go to Harvard or Stanford or Duke just for their engineering or science programs? Lol. I wish the world were like what you described - everything evaluated strictly on quality and merit. But that isn't the world we live in.
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