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Old 09-29-2015, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Although I agree about the running to the media part, what exactly are you implying about there being an impression that Anglophones are "colonialists"? I've rarely ever heard anyone use this word to describe any kind of people. If you mean to imply that Anglophones still have a "colonialist" mentality and haven't moved past those days in terms of thinking, then that just seems a bit irrational to me for anyone to interpret the Anglophone community that way.
I don't engage in name calling and it's my translation of the term ''colonisateur'' that I have sometimes heard.

How then would you describe people who've lived in a 95% francophone area of Quebec (I am not talking about Westmount or Aylmer here) and who still react rudely when people address them in French?
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Halifax, NS
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LOL funny thread.

Forget the fact that Anglo-Quebecers still have a higher average household income than Francophone Quebecers.

... and run most of the big companies over there.

Though, the language laws are weird. The argument about Anglophones in New Brunswick being "oppressed" (yes, that's actually a thing) is more ridiculous. People getting equal rights to those who have previously had power is apparently oppression. You know, women getting rights oppresses men and saying "Black Lives Matter" is anti-white too. LMAO.
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Canada
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LOL funny thread.

Forget the fact that Anglo-Quebecers still have a higher average household income than Francophone Quebecers.

... and run most of the big companies over there.

Though, the language laws are weird. The argument about Anglophones in New Brunswick being "oppressed" (yes, that's actually a thing) is more ridiculous. People getting equal rights to those who have previously had power is apparently oppression. You know, women getting rights oppresses men and saying "Black Lives Matter" is anti-white too. LMAO.
That's not true, one of those myths that still persist. Anglo-Quebecers have a lower median income than Francophones in today's Quebec and are more likely to live below the poverty line. The stereotype is that everyone is a Westmount elite, the reality is very different.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle14865795/
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Old 10-01-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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I don't engage in name calling and it's my translation of the term ''colonisateur'' that I have sometimes heard.

How then would you describe people who've lived in a 95% francophone area of Quebec (I am not talking about Westmount or Aylmer here) and who still react rudely when people address them in French?
The same way I'd describe those who spend their winters in an English speaking country other than Canada who react rudely to someone addressing them in English within their sequestered little enclaves of the type Hollywood Beach used to host .

Your term may be appropriate after all.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The same way I'd describe those who spend their winters in an English speaking country other than Canada who react rudely to someone addressing them in English within their sequestered little enclaves of the type Hollywood Beach used to host .

Your term may be appropriate after all.
Anything is possible but this is still extremely rare behaviour on the part of Quebec snowbirds in Florida.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:22 AM
 
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I find it interesting that Anglos love to highlight minor slights against them in the media as evidence of Quebecois intolerance and yet refuse to acknowledge 200 years of systematic marginalisation of Francophones in Canada by first the British government and later by Canadian society as a whole.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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I find it interesting that Anglos love to highlight minor slights against them in the media as evidence of Quebecois intolerance and yet refuse to acknowledge 200 years of systematic marginalisation of Francophones in Canada by first the British government and later by Canadian society as a whole.
What's more relevant, the society you actually live in, or things that happened before you were born? I also would not say that there is a refusal to acknowledge, it seems to me that it is fairly acknowledged, the conflict is over the implications of that and what is the correct thing to do now.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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That's not true, one of those myths that still persist. Anglo-Quebecers have a lower median income than Francophones in today's Quebec and are more likely to live below the poverty line. The stereotype is that everyone is a Westmount elite, the reality is very different.

An Anglo elite in Quebec? Not anymore - The Globe and Mail
That should be expected. If you don't speak the local language, shouldn't you expect to be poorer? I am sure all the immigrants in Ontario or BC who don't speak fluent English earn less than native speakers.

Want economic equality? Speak the local language would be the first step.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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What's more relevant, the society you actually live in, or things that happened before you were born? I also would not say that there is a refusal to acknowledge, it seems to me that it is fairly acknowledged, the conflict is over the implications of that and what is the correct thing to do now.
The things that happened before you were born (which isn't quite true for a sizable % of Quebecois) provide the context for what goes on in the society that you live in. Expecting people to forgive and forget and hold hands and sing koumbaya is silly.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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That should be expected. If you don't speak the local language, shouldn't you expect to be poorer? I am sure all the immigrants in Ontario or BC who don't speak fluent English earn less than native speakers.

Want economic equality? Speak the local language would be the first step.
The definition of Anglo for the purposes of that statistic is not defined by whether or not you speak French, it is only mother tongue. The vast majority of native Quebec Anglophones are bilingual to some degree.
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