Do you think Canada is a fail in terms of its climate?

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by deneb78

You can have changing of seasons without anyone of them being uncomfortable.
Nice, France has pretty well defined seasons without any one of them being very uncomfortable. It's also at the same latitude as Toronto

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice#Climate

I'd hardly call that a winter either. The all time low in Nice is rather close to how low the average low gets to Pittsburgh in January, and Pittsburgh is over 3 degrees further south in latitude. Even Atlanta is colder in December and January than there on average and they sit at 33.75 N. Nice basically has October weather for 6 months of the year though, which I wouldn't mind too much.

[deneb78]

Originally Posted by bradjl2009

I'd hardly call that a winter either. The all time low in Nice is rather close to how low the average low gets to Pittsburgh in January, and Pittsburgh is over 3 degrees further south in latitude. Nice basically has October weather for 6 months of the year though, which I wouldn't mind too much.

Pittsburgh has a rather severe climate by global standards though and only slightly better than most of Canada. It does not really have comfortable seasons because winter is too cold on a global scale and spring and fall are too erratic.

Atlanta is bang on of what a winter should be to be considered comfortable by most and yet still considered to have a winter.

[Zoisite]

Originally Posted by bradjl2009

I'd hardly call that a winter either. The all time low in Nice is rather close to how low the average low gets to Pittsburgh in January, and Pittsburgh is over 3 degrees further south in latitude. Even Atlanta is colder in December and January than there on average and they sit at 33.75 N. Nice basically has October weather for 6 months of the year though, which I wouldn't mind too much.

I noticed you've mentioned latitudes a few times in some of your posts and am wondering if you realize that latitudes are not so important in determining temperatures of specific locations. It's the jet streams that determine temperatures and the jet streams meander up and down all over the globe in a sort of sine wave pattern. The oceans are the engines that drive the jet streams and the jet streams can change locations in their flow from day to day, week to week and month to month both above and below all latitudes around the globe bringing cold or hot temperatures to those locations in the most unexpected ways and at most unexpected times.

I think you need to do some research about the jet streams and how they effect the global weather and temperatures at ALL latitudes, and look for yourself at some of the diagrams online that show how the jet streams are unpredictable in their movement and can be all over the place at any given time. See example below in the first diagram of how (c) a drop in the jet stream can cause a drop in temperatures even as far down as nearer to the equator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_stream

Meanders of the Northern Hemisphere's polar jet stream developing (a), (b); then finally detaching a "drop" of cold air (c). Orange: warmer masses of air; pink: jet stream.

General configuration of the polar and subtropical jet streams

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