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Stephen Harper, Conservative Party 15 31.25%
Tom Mulcair, NDP 10 20.83%
Elizabeth May, Green Party 3 6.25%
Gilles Duceppe, Bloc Quebecois 6 12.50%
Justin Trudeau, Liberal Party 14 29.17%
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Old 10-14-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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Actually the old Progressive Party had a wide range of views in the social world hence the term red tories for the more left wing part of the party. Harper just cut off the moderate right and all to the left of the moderate right of the party.

In my riding it will be conservative. Our candidate even showed up for a forum. But even if he was a fence post he would still win a large majority. He could be a deceased mass murderer and still carry the day.
This has been such a close race, that I don't think it's too wild to foresee some soul-searching in all the parties after the vote's done.
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Old 10-14-2015, 05:06 PM
 
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I voted in advance yesterday since I will be travelling on the 19th. Had a change of heart in the past couple of weeks and voted for the liberal party after all as the military aggressions really got on my nerves.

Interesting, almost all of my Asian friends from BC to Quebec vote for the Conservative.
I think all the major parties need to do some revamping and bring themselves up-to-date, up into 2015, after the election. Maybe I'm alone in this view. But with the NDP dropping "socialism" from their party charter a few years ago, and the Conservatives dropping "Progressive" from their name, and the Liberals doing a nostalgia-thing back to the Trudeau Sr. years... enough already. They should all modernize themselves. Jettison all the baggage from years ago and deal with 2015.
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Old 10-14-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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Actually the old Progressive Party had a wide range of views in the social world hence the term red tories for the more left wing part of the party. Harper just cut off the moderate right and all to the left of the moderate right of the party.
This just blows my mind.

Harper is still very, very moderate and centrist by U.S. standards. I'll be voting for Clinton next year in both the primary and general election, but in Canada I would have probably voted Conservative Party. The space between Clinton and Harper is paper thin, and I don't know which one is to which side of the other.
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Old 10-14-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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This just blows my mind.

Harper is still very, very moderate and centrist by U.S. standards. I'll be voting for Clinton next year in both the primary and general election, but in Canada I would have probably voted Conservative Party. The space between Clinton and Harper is paper thin, and I don't know which one is to which side of the other.
Yup. Right-wing Canadians ain't got nothin' on right-wing Americans. We don't have conspiracy-theorists worming their way into the mainstream here, like they do stateside.

Has anyone here heard of Alex Jones, the fringe radio host? It's virtually impossible to imagine a Canadian equivalent to him. Yet in the U.S. he's becoming increasingly mainstream. It just boggles the mind.
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Old 10-14-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Halifax, NS
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That is what the Conservative Party was before they were taken over by the Reformers etc. They dropped
"progressive " from their name for a reason.

I remember a TV interview just after the Reformers took control of the party. An old time federal PC reacted strongly to the suggestion that the new Conservative party was pretty much the same as the old Progressive Conservative Party.
The reaction was on social issues. The PC were not socially conservative, just fiscally conservative. That riff still exists today.

Do a little Googling on that time for the full story.
I was a member of the PC party back when the merge happened. I really was like "there goes the neighbourhood!"

And I was only 21 or 22 at the time. I joined the PC party when I was 14 (because Canada is the land of not making sense, you can join a political party when you're 14 and even vote on their internal elections, but you cannot vote in a general election until you're 18)

Like, I remember being at conventions and seeing some of the people who were from the old Reform/Alliance. Holy ****! Those guys demonstrated the downfall of democracy... people vote for these people, when they really should be in heavily medicated.

The last sane guy in the party was Peter MacKay... and when he left, it seems the Cons have gone more off their rocker than they were.

Saw this funny cartoon BTW:



Atlantic Canada used to be a Conservative stronghold. Now they'll probably lose every seat in this province. The Alberta Cons have alienated this region. It's probably all the Atlantic Canadians over there that made the Alberta provincial election go NDP. Haha. And the seats here, it looks like it will be a Liberal sweep. Even long time NDP ridings are looking like they will go Liberal (ie Halifax Center). And to think Halifax's airport is named after the Conservative candidate who lost to Justin Trudeau's father three times.

Danny Williams was a former Atlantic Canadian Conservative who started the ABC (Anything But Conservative) movement.

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Old 10-14-2015, 07:39 PM
 
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I was a member of the PC party back when the merge happened. I really was like "there goes the neighbourhood!"

And I was only 21 or 22 at the time. I joined the PC party when I was 14 (because Canada is the land of not making sense, you can join a political party when you're 14 and even vote on their internal elections, but you cannot vote in a general election until you're 18)

Like, I remember being at conventions and seeing some of the people who were from the old Reform/Alliance. Holy ****! Those guys demonstrated the downfall of democracy... people vote for these people, when they really should be in heavily medicated.

The last sane guy in the party was Peter MacKay... and when he left, it seems the Cons have gone more off their rocker than they were.

Saw this funny cartoon BTW:



Atlantic Canada used to be a Conservative stronghold. Now they'll probably lose every seat in this province. The Alberta Cons have alienated this region. It's probably all the Atlantic Canadians over there that made the Alberta provincial election go NDP. Haha. And the seats here, it looks like it will be a Liberal sweep. Even long time NDP ridings are looking like they will go Liberal (ie Halifax Center). And to think Halifax's airport is named after the Conservative candidate who lost to Justin Trudeau's father three times.

Danny Williams was a former Atlantic Canadian Conservative who started the ABC (Anything But Conservative) movement.
The Liberals have gained a lot of ground in the Atlantic provinces at the expense of the NDP, I think. It's interesting--the NDP used to be a contender in East Coast elections, but not this time around. It's like they don't even exist there anymore. I can't tell if that was an organizing problem, or a result of a change in mindset among East Coasters. Whatever the reason, it could be a sign of things to come for the NDP in the rest of the country.
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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The Liberals have gained a lot of ground in the Atlantic provinces at the expense of the NDP, I think. It's interesting--the NDP used to be a contender in East Coast elections, but not this time around. It's like they don't even exist there anymore. I can't tell if that was an organizing problem, or a result of a change in mindset among East Coasters. Whatever the reason, it could be a sign of things to come for the NDP in the rest of the country.
People were more leaning NDP, but with momentum by the Liberals, it looks like they will pick up the seats. I think people here are more interested in getting rid of Stephen Harper than voting for a specific party. The ABC movement started here. Now I hear that all across the country.

Also the Conservatives were popular in Atlantic Canada, but Harper caused them to decline in popularity.

The NDP forming the provincial government in Nova Scotia left a sour taste in people's mouths. They were actually accused of racist gerrymandering. They redrew electoral boundaries of four ridings, which were intentionally drawn to guarantee there were at least two black people and two Acadians in provincial legislature. This might be why the ridings in the Halifax area with large black populations are swaying Liberal after 20+ years of being NDP.
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:28 PM
 
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People were more leaning NDP, but with momentum by the Liberals, it looks like they will pick up the seats. I think people here are more interested in getting rid of Stephen Harper than voting for a specific party. The ABC movement started here. Now I hear that all across the country.
This. I think the Liberals, seeing their recent surge in Quebec, they should give credit to the Liberals' early lead in Atlantic Canada, which they've held for months.
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:48 PM
 
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The NDP has also been guilty of largely ignoring Atlantic Canada, as they've been more preoccupied by retaining their seats in Quebec and winning more in Ontario and BC.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Halifax, NS
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The NDP has also been guilty of largely ignoring Atlantic Canada, as they've been more preoccupied by retaining their seats in Quebec and winning more in Ontario and BC.
Everybody ignores Atlantic Canada. lol. Except for Stephen Harper, who said we deserved to freeze in the dark.

But Justin Trudeau is going to be in Halifax on Saturday. This surprises me. A federal candidate coming here two days before election day. That would more than secure my vote it I hadn't already decided (and hadn't voted in advanced polls).
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