Federal election (maintenance, metro, build)

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

Originally Posted by Souriquois

I'm not anti-Tory at all. I am anti-Reform. It's unfortunate they took over that party.

You must be a "Red Tory" - the rough equivalent to a "Rockefeller Republican" in the States.

[Magnatomicflux]

Originally Posted by BIMBAM

Small point, but Paul Martin is actually from Windsor Ontario and educated in Toronto. He did represent a Montreal riding later in life but is absolutely an ROC Francophone of Metis and Irish descent.

Yep. We have a (ex)Federal Building named after him.






And this is the shack he grew up in................





lol

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo

You must be a "Red Tory" - the rough equivalent to a "Rockefeller Republican" in the States.

Ricky is still upset about a party that hasn't existed for 15 years, and conveniently forgets that the Tories were reduced to two seats and lost official party status before those dirty Westerners came around.

The actual Progressive Conservatives were killed by Mulroney and his pandering to Quebec while ignoring the base of his support amongst other things.

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

Ricky is still upset about a party that hasn't existed for 15 years, and conveniently forgets that the Tories were reduced to two seats and lost official party status before those dirty Westerners came around.

There's still a few former Republicans who reside in the Northeast who are upset because they believe Southerners took over the party.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo

I thought he grew up speaking English.

I think he may have. His family I believe "lost" French at one point and then he regained it later in life.

But his roots are definitely Franco-Ontarian.

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

The actual Progressive Conservatives were killed by Mulroney and his pandering to Quebec while ignoring the base of his support amongst other things.

I thought Mulroney was a right-winger by Quebec standards.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo

I thought Mulroney was a right-winger by Quebec standards.

Not really. The definition varies from era to era and person to person, but to me Mulroney was the classic Canadian Red Tory.

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Not really. The definition varies from era to era and person to person, but to me Mulroney was the classic Canadian Red Tory.

Absolutely. The only thing he ever did out of character was NAFTA.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

Absolutely. The only thing he ever did out of character was NAFTA.

If I recall they weren't really that different from the Liberals of the day.

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by Mouldy Old Schmo

There's still a few former Republicans who reside in the Northeast who are upset because they believe Southerners took over the party.

I live in Texas. Believe me there are people who are still pissed at LBJ.