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Old 10-23-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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So someone who doesn't like Hillary Clinton I assume would be conservative. So as a conservative you actually want to swap Hillary Clinton for Justin Trudeau?
There are people on both sides of the aisle who have no use for Hillary, believe me. Disgust for the Clintons crosses all party lines and most of us just want to see them ride off into the sunset.

I also have no use for Donald Trump, but at this point it's looking like it will probably be one or the other. I think our options this time around are a good barometer of what kind of times these are in the U.S., and it ain't good.

I may be wrong, and it may be a stereotype, but it seems to me that Canadians are more self-disciplined, principled people in general than Americans and are far less likely to live their lives based on who is in office at the moment. That's a good thing, BTW. Politicians come and go, but personal principles and convictions last a lifetime.
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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If Trump wins the nomination, never mind the Presidency, I know what you can call me...

Me and Teddy Cruz are Canadian.
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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Rather an insulting implication to Canadians that they vote for their leader just for a joke. What leads you to this bogus idea?Something from FOX perhaps?
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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There are people on both sides of the aisle who have no use for Hillary, believe me. Disgust for the Clintons crosses all party lines and most of us just want to see them ride off into the sunset.

I also have no use for Donald Trump, but at this point it's looking like it will probably be one or the other. I think our options this time around are a good barometer of what kind of times these are in the U.S., and it ain't good.

I may be wrong, and it may be a stereotype, but it seems to me that Canadians are more self-disciplined, principled people in general than Americans and are far less likely to live their lives based on who is in office at the moment. That's a good thing, BTW. Politicians come and go, but personal principles and convictions last a lifetime.

Having more than two parties and not having parties in the local level helps that as well. Also having become an indepentent country gradually rather than having to throw off a government has made a large difference in how we view governments and hence the party in power.


I am not sure how the OP comes up with the question considering some of the people running to become President.
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:27 PM
 
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A certain part of the Canadian public will probably never warm up to him, but that's politics.

I don't know how much it even matters, because soon he'll have a cabinet in place, and the cabinet ministers will be answering a lot of questions and taking a certain amount of the heat from the media and the public. Not that Trudeau's public credibility isn't important. Of course it is. But it won't be a one-man show anymore, once the House is back to business.
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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Having more than two parties and not having parties in the local level helps that as well. Also having become an indepentent country gradually rather than having to throw off a government has made a large difference in how we view governments and hence the party in power.


I am not sure how the OP comes up with the question considering some of the people running to become President.
Whole other level of bizarre down there... just when you think the world can't get any more strange, the U.S. will raise that bar beyond anything you could imagine in your wildest dreams.

They just don't "do" moderate anymore.
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Old 10-23-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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I think a lot of people didn't take him seriously at the beginning of the campaign, but a lot more hated Harper so much that thay where going to be satisfied with just modicum of intelligence and political confidence. And he did it. But the biggest trait he has shown while campaigning is heart, true compassion. That's not something any politician can fake easily; you can fake a lot of things if nobody knows you, but not that.
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Old 10-23-2015, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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They do take him VERY seriously, and have done so ever since he first entered the public eye ten years ago.
That is because he has a famous last name, and in 21st century culture, having a famous name is a VERY serious thing.
Famous last name = swept into power, faster than you can shake a stick.

Here in the states, we also take race VERY seriously. That meant that Barack Obama being black = swept into power faster than you can shake a stick.

Same idea.
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Old 10-23-2015, 07:50 PM
 
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They do take him VERY seriously, and have done so ever since he first entered the public eye ten years ago.
That is because he has a famous last name, and in 21st century culture, having a famous name is a VERY serious thing.
Famous last name = swept into power, faster than you can shake a stick.

Here in the states, we also take race VERY seriously. That meant that Barack Obama being black = swept into power faster than you can shake a stick.

Same idea.
That certainly explains why the liberals were in third place for the first two thirds of the race. Trudeau ran a great campaign, Ndp did not hence is our new PM and Muclair is not. Your post has grossly over simplified the situation. Trudeau family name was toxic in parts of the country.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Anyone with Barack Obama as their President has no business asking this question!
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There are people on both sides of the aisle who have no use for Hillary, believe me. Disgust for the Clintons crosses all party lines and most of us just want to see them ride off into the sunset.

I also have no use for Donald Trump, but at this point it's looking like it will probably be one or the other. I think our options this time around are a good barometer of what kind of times these are in the U.S., and it ain't good.
I'm not sure you fully understood Acajack's point.

You criticize Democrats, and, I assume, liberals across the board --in the Canadian forum, no less! -- so you've opened the discussion. Apparently, you don't like Obama, either. I voted for Obama. Twice. And though I would probably give him a grade of only a "C," I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat, given the same choices. And I'll bet the vast majority of Canadian - Americans would, as well.

Let's see: Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin in '08. THAT is a no-brainer, if ever there was one. Obama/Biden or Mitt (the Twit)/Ryan in '12. Still an easy decision. Yep, I'd vote for Obama all over again. In fact, I became a US citizen in order to be able to help throw the Republicans out. Most Canadians, like me, were stunned (and not in a good way) by Palin, and appalled by Romney and Ryan.

And, if I were back in Canada, I likely would have voted for Trudeau. Because I'm more left-leaning than right, and both Obama and Trudeau are liberal, though Trudeau more so. You understand that, right?

You understand that Obama's efforts to democratize the US healthcare system, for example, which Republicans despise him for, are CONSERVATIVE by Canadian standards, yes? You understand that Canadians take their universal health care, for example, for granted, and that they would never want to follow the US model of healthcare?

It's always interesting to hear American conservatives say they're going to move to Canada. What makes them think that Canada, or any other western democracy, for that matter, would be a "refuge" from the "socialism," or the "communism" () of Obama? Canada is "blue" -' albeit various shades of "blue" -- from north to south and east to west. There MIGHT be some specks of "purple" scattered throughout, but there sure as heck aren't any solid blocks of "red."

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