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Old 10-23-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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A pretty boy politician. How can anyone take him seriously. He looks and acts just like another "steal from the rich, distribute to the poor, we are all God's Children" liberals.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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I'm not sure you fully understood Acajack's point.

You criticize Democrats, and, I assume, liberals across the board --in the Canadian forum, no less! -- so you've opened the discussion. Apparently, you don't like Obama, either. I voted for Obama. Twice. And though I would probably give him a grade of only a "C," I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat, given the same choices. And I'll bet the vast majority of Canadian - Americans would, as well.

Let's see: Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin in '08. THAT is a no-brainer, if ever there was one. Obama/Biden or Mitt (the Twit)/Ryan in '12. Still an easy decision. Yep, I'd vote for Obama all over again. In fact, I became a US citizen in order to be able to help throw the Republicans out. Most Canadians, like me, were stunned (and not in a good way) by Palin, and appalled by Romney and Ryan.

And, if I were back in Canada, I likely would have voted for Trudeau. Because I'm more left-leaning than right, and both Obama and Trudeau are liberal, though Trudeau more so. You understand that, right?

You understand that Obama's efforts to democratize the US healthcare system, for example, which Republicans despise him for, are CONSERVATIVE by Canadian standards, yes? You understand that Canadians take their universal health care, for example, for granted, and that they would never want to follow the US model of healthcare?

It's always interesting to hear American conservatives say they're going to move to Canada. What makes them think that Canada, or any other western democracy, for that matter, would be a "refuge" from the "socialism," or the "communism" () of Obama? Canada is "blue" -' albeit various shades of "blue" -- from north to south and east to west. There MIGHT be some specks of "purple" scattered throughout, but there sure as heck aren't any solid blocks of "red."
You seem very bitter.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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You seem very bitter.
How did the election of a Liberal majority government in Canada turn into a Obama/Hillary bash fest for you? What does it have to do with how seriously Canadians view a Justin Trudeau-led government?
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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You seem very bitter.
Mmm...no. l've read some of your posts in other threads where you denigrate "liberals" and Democrats (like in this thread). I don't sound any more "bitter" than you do. Let's just say you and I are both opinionated. This is a good thing!

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Old 10-23-2015, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Mmm...no. l've read some of your posts in other threads where you denigrate "liberals" and Democrats (like in this thread). I don't sound any more "bitter" than you do. Let's just say you and I are both opinionated. This is a good thing!
And it still doesn't make any sense for a conservative to move to Trudeau's Canada to get away from Clinton's America...
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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And it still doesn't make any sense for a conservative to move to Trudeau's Canada to get away from Clinton's America...
Exactly.
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Old 10-23-2015, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Canada
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That certainly explains why the liberals were in third place for the first two thirds of the race. Trudeau ran a great campaign, Ndp did not hence is our new PM and Muclair is not. Your post has grossly over simplified the situation. Trudeau family name was toxic in parts of the country.
It was certainly toxic in my family. That was why I would have swallowed my dentures if I had some, when my parents said they voted, not only Liberal, but for a Trudeau Liberal. But it wasn't about Trudeau, it was, as others have pointed out, a vote against Harper. Among the other things I learned about their voting habits, was that they had previously voted Reform. From Reform to a Trudeau - that is a HUGE leap.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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It was certainly toxic in my family. That was why I would have swallowed my dentures if I had some, when my parents said they voted, not only Liberal, but for a Trudeau Liberal. But it wasn't about Trudeau, it was, as others have pointed out, a vote against Harper. Among the other things I learned about their voting habits, was that they had previously voted Reform. From Reform to a Trudeau - that is a HUGE leap.
Well; I'll take it further as one who voted for his father the first time but could not after that. I was frankly averse to voting for Justin due in large part to his last name carrying a genetic marker.

I was loathe to put a deficit budgeter into the big chair. Still am.

I was impressed with his campaign turn-around showing some acumen and shocked by Harper's missteps showing a complete ignorance of what Canadians admire in their leaders. Unmitigated arrogance and small mindedness not being among those traits.

Now today comes the news Trudeau has "invited" all party leaders to the upcoming summit on Global Warming in Paris as the delegation from Canada.

Two thoughts come to mind on that; a brilliant move that will serve to hasten Harper's exit stage left so as to have someone in place who can go as an invitee from the Conservatives, and...... I have no choice but to look at this early indicator with the thought: a lesser man would have simply said to himself "we are the governing party elected to do so and that's that".........as Harper would have done.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Now about the deficit thingy........
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Old 10-24-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Halifax, NS
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Mmm...no. l've read some of your posts in other threads where you denigrate "liberals" and Democrats (like in this thread). I don't sound any more "bitter" than you do. Let's just say you and I are both opinionated. This is a good thing!
Right-wingers are like Grumpy Cat lmao
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Old 10-24-2015, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Halifax, NS
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It was certainly toxic in my family. That was why I would have swallowed my dentures if I had some, when my parents said they voted, not only Liberal, but for a Trudeau Liberal. But it wasn't about Trudeau, it was, as others have pointed out, a vote against Harper. Among the other things I learned about their voting habits, was that they had previously voted Reform. From Reform to a Trudeau - that is a HUGE leap.
A Reform to Trudeau. WOW!!! I take back what I said earlier about Reform supporters. They ain't all nuts.

And this is a testament to how bad Harper was. The Conservative Party is currently fracturing as we speak. I'm reading it like OMG DRAMS!
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