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Old 10-05-2016, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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It is stupid and prejudiced of the world or the UN Security Council to not allow Germany to re-arm this many years after WWII. They should change their constitution and defend themselves like every other nation in the world.

They are the 3rd largest economy in the world, and could easily defend all of Europe if they were allowed to have an army again. They were a formidable enemy in WWII but that was decades ago and the time has come to move on. Same for Japan in East Asia. If those two nations were allowed to have large military forces again, like France or the UK, those regions would be far more stable. I also don't think Russia would push Western Europe around if Germany had a large military.
4th now. 5th in PPP behind India.

 
Old 10-06-2016, 01:41 AM
 
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You will never find bigger Detroit boosters than Windsorites. They are the city's biggest cheerleaders, even people from Detroit aren't as pro Detroit as people from Windsor.
Yes, I've noticed that before here on the forums too. Do you have any idea why that might be? Even if they consider Windsor to be a suburb of Detroit, it is rather hard to just pretend the large amounts of blight and violent crime don't exist.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Yes, I've noticed that before here on the forums too. Do you have any idea why that might be? Even if they consider Windsor to be a suburb of Detroit, it is rather hard to just pretend the large amounts of blight and violent crime don't exist.


We don't pretend it doesn't exist. We've had each other's backs since 1701. We know what she was, who she is, and who she can be again.


What do Windsorites think of Detroit? Don't be a *****. Visit Detroit.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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I can't speak to either any dislike or hate factor, although, e.g., I do find Canadia/ens' snootiness toward the US South one of several telling aspects of their more often being far sillier than an average American from the south.
I live in the US south and meet many vacationing Canadians, they are almost always friendly and polite when they are here. In fact they are model tourists, unlike some who are from other regions of the USA. In general Canadians and Americans get along and like each other in the real world. On the internet is where we sometimes see foolishness.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 02:56 AM
 
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We don't pretend it doesn't exist. We've had each other's backs since 1701. We know what she was, who she is, and who she can be again.


What do Windsorites think of Detroit? Don't be a *****. Visit Detroit.
But did Detroit change your perception of the US? I could imagine the average Canadian from Windsor was raised believing everything is better in the US: lower prices, they're generally richer, higher salaries, lower taxes, bigger houses, more opportunities, better climate, etc and when you visited the US for the first time, the first thing you saw was probably Detroit.

At some point, after seeing enough of Detroit, you must have thought something like: "wait a minute, there is something not quite right here".
 
Old 10-06-2016, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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But did Detroit change your perception of the US? I could imagine the average Canadian from Windsor was raised believing everything is better in the US: lower prices, they're generally richer, higher salaries, lower taxes, bigger houses, more opportunities, better climate, etc and when you visited the US for the first time, the first thing you saw was probably Detroit.

At some point, after seeing enough of Detroit, you must have thought something like: "wait a minute, there is something not quite right here".


Nope. Not at all. Detroit is a very small portion of the US. "Better" is subjective, but yes, that's all pretty much true.

What do I see? I see a city that was torn apart by race and mismanagement. I see a city who had all it's eggs in one basket, and those corporations to which she gave birth abandoned her for the almighty dollar.



What else do I see when I enter Detroit? I see a city containing some of the finest architecture in the United States. I see a city of towering Art Deco skyscrapers, and one of the largest collections of late 19th and early 20th century buildings in the US. I see ruins that other cities would drool over they are so beautiful.

I see amazing festivals, markets, museums, clubs, bars, pubs, and entertainment venues.

I see history, and music.

I see a proud inhabitants who won't give up on their city no matter how hard things might get or which buffoon of a politician is running the show.

I see a city on the brink of rebirth.

I see a city with a very bright future, and I'm proud to have her as a neighbour.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 05:05 AM
 
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I share your admiration for the Detroit architecture and the many ruins there. I would love to visit Detroit and go see Michigan Central Station, the Packard Plant, Delray, and the Boblo Island boat terminal but those are not exactly the kind of places to visit with a family.

Still, the city has been in decline and has been bleeding population since the 50's. I also read about a recent 'revival' but I don't think that recent revival has compensated for the speed-up in decline since the economic crisis broke out let alone can compensate for the additional nearly 60 years of decline. And then there is the crime, lots of it even. I don't think Detroit has really improved and it probably never will. So, I still don't understand why you Canadians from Windsor feel you need to defend Detroit.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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I always wondered what you Canadians from Windsor think about the US. You know, having Detroit dangerously close to you.
My husband was born and raised right in the city of Detroit. Most Windsorites love Detroit and think of it as our own, but are very happy that the border is there.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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I share your admiration for the Detroit architecture and the many ruins there. I would love to visit Detroit and go see Michigan Central Station, the Packard Plant, Delray, and the Boblo Island boat terminal but those are not exactly the kind of places to visit with a family.

Still, the city has been in decline and has been bleeding population since the 50's. I also read about a recent 'revival' but I don't think that recent revival has compensated for the speed-up in decline since the economic crisis broke out let alone can compensate for the additional nearly 60 years of decline. And then there is the crime, lots of it even. I don't think Detroit has really improved and it probably never will. So, I still don't understand why you Canadians from Windsor feel you need to defend Detroit.
I'm sorry, but you seem rather clueless about the region. Windsor and Detroit are one region with two main cities separated by a border, there is very much interaction between them. Yes, Detroit has suffered but it has really turned the corner and now has record amount of investments and has people moving into parts of it in droves. Things are changing fast and will only continue to get better, and this extends into other parts of the city too, not just DT.
I'm afraid you missed the boat on coming here to see ruin porn, most of DT is buzzing with people and activity and almost all the abandoned skyscrapers are either already renovated or are in the process.
Why wouldn't Windsorites defend Detroit? It's our sister city right across the river from us, and what's good for Detroit is good for Windsor!
 
Old 10-06-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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I'm sorry, but you seem rather clueless about the region. Windsor and Detroit are one region with two main cities separated by a border, there is very much interaction between them. Yes, Detroit has suffered but it has really turned the corner and now has record amount of investments and has people moving into parts of it in droves. Things are changing fast and will only continue to get better, and this extends into other parts of the city too, not just DT.
I'm afraid you missed the boat on coming here to see ruin porn, most of DT is buzzing with people and activity and almost all the abandoned skyscrapers are either already renovated or are in the process.
Why wouldn't Windsorites defend Detroit? It's our sister city right across the river from us, and what's good for Detroit is good for Windsor!
And it's not like you're all rushing out to buy Mercedes cars even though Germany darned near starved you all to death. Now THAT'S confusing.
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