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Old 06-09-2016, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BIMBAM View Post
The question wasn't even directed at him, it was directed at Dion. Really brings home that alot of the people running the show in China may not be very competent. For a diplomat to do that was just crazy, now everyone is talking about human rights abuses in China, and has been given the impression that the Chinese regime is a bully that it's dangerous to engage with. Absolutely the opposite of what his job is. I think China's on the wrong track under Xi Jinping and I don't think Trudeau should go for free trade with them right now, I feel like it isn't the right time yet and they won't make for honest partners right now.
I agree with you until the last sentence.

I think mixing trade with human rights is silly and illogical. When you don't trade with China, you hurt the Chinese people, which you appear to defend, not the elites. What's wrong with Canada's foreign policy is that it wants to force its political agenda into economic cooperation, which is a mutually-beneficial thing.

Honest partner? Come on. Do you think the US is an honest partner, considering its power abuse in the Middle East and many other places? Should we trade with them? Realistically speaking, not having a free trade agreement with China hurts Canada more than China. China is Canada's second largest trading partner, and Canada isn't that important for China, which gets most of its resources from Russia, Middle East and central Asia. Stop playing this "you are not noble so I am not playing with you" game like Harper did for years. It serves little to harm China but misses opportunities for Canada because that's where most of the growth is.

And do you really think other country will respect Canada a bit more for doing that? Why do you think the US is ending the sanctions on Iran now? Sometimes I don't think why Canada deliberately chooses to be that nave. The world never functions around moral standards and never will.
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:59 PM
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The first laws that the current government got rid of were laws that had challenges in the Supreme Court or were considered flawed by the Liberals. Some of the Conservative's new laws undid existing laws too. The one I would like our government to undo is the one where Harper drastically weaken a law that Sir John A passed in the first year of this country. To think that water bodies need less protection in 2015 then in 1867 was foolish and it meant that the environment should only be protected when there is an industrial level economic reason for protecting it.

If Canadians did not want any of the laws changed they should have voted CPC, they did not therefore the new government was elected with a mandate for change, including some of the laws that they have already changed.

I too would like B51 dropped or at least improved. I think we may have to wait on that as it is probably more complicated they the ones they have already done. We need improved security without losing freedoms and rights and how to do that is not only complicated but is important to do correctly. Getting rid of the three year ban on a woman covering her face during a public ceremony was not only a simply procedure to take it back to the way it was but was going to be forced by the Supreme Court.
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