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Old 06-19-2016, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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No, I'm not proposing that. We have a lot of Muslims in my hometown, and all I have met seem very nice. But there is a tiny percentage here and in Canada I assume. I also assume that Canadian Muslims are probably more integrated than British Muslims. But it is a concern when there have been so many terror attacks here. Canada hasn't gotten nearly as many as we have. I'm sure if you did have a terror cell there, they'd be plotting to attack us.
The percentage of Muslim-Canadians is three times higher than the US. I just read in Atlantic Monthly that the % in the US is about 1%, compared to about 3% in Canada. Most Canadian Muslims live in urban areas. My neighborhood is about 30% Muslim.
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Only 3% percent of the total population. Wow, I would have thought it was much higher with the amount of attention the media and our prime minister give them.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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Who is "they"? Can we get a cite to "their" research?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ity-sharia-law

C4 survey and documentary reveals What British Muslims Really Think - Channel 4 - Info - Press
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Who is "they"? Can we get a cite to "their" research?
Why the incredulity? Do we need a poll to prove that the Habs are the most popular hockey team in Montreal?
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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This has been the concern for me is this kind of heightened and inflammatory rhetoric going on because of one event that happened somewhere else. Its unfortunate but it is what it is.

To balance out your report - There is positive leadership in the Imam circles here in Canada - even when faced with extraordinary hate.

Meet the Toronto imam wanted dead by Islamic State - The Globe and Mail
The report I heard was not unbalanced. It didn't really focus on the death threat. It was more about how the gay imam was a courageous trailblazer.

Still don't know why people can make death threats in public in Canada under the guise of religion. I thought this was illegal.

Imagine if a Catholic bishop talked about gays as committing a mortal sin... what the reaction would be.
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Old 06-19-2016, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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The report I heard was not unbalanced. It didn't really focus on the death threat. It was more about how the gay imam was a courageous trailblazer.

Still don't know why people can make death threats in public in Canada under the guise of religion. I thought this was illegal.

Imagine if a Catholic bishop talked about gays as committing a mortal sin... what the reaction would be.
When I said balance I meant in terms of the perception that all Imams would advocate such drastic measures against any group. Not that what you were saying was unbalanced. I would agree with you, such threats shouldn't be tolerated in this country - regardless of who is making them and if they are religious or not.
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Old 06-19-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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Thoughts on Orlando without having read any of this thread (because I don't want to develop an aneurism): typical weekly American happening that will in turn dredge up yet another low-IQ gun defense debate, nothing is solved, the problem will persist, and the discussion will return to City Data ad nauseam until the USA has another revolution that doesn't suck.

I do not claim to know definitively whether or not this was a radicalization thing or an anti-gay thing. Probably more likely an anti-gay thing. Regardless, the main problem is the USA has a gun problem it doesn't want to talk about.
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Old 06-19-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Look up the Dancing Boys of Afghanistan. This has been a part of their culture long before Islam came along. I don't think him going to gay bars or watching drag queens is all that different, though I haven't heard one person claim to have had a sexual relationship with him. Whether he was scouting the places, or targeting someone specific that he did have a relationship with, I don't think it was as awful of a thing in his culture as people seem to think.

Maybe I'm wrong about him, but I am right about the culture there.
You are making a huge leap. There is a HUGE difference between one aspect of Afghan culture and gay bars.

However we are talking about HIM, so at least you are seeing that you could be wrong about him. I may be proven wrong as more evidence if any, comes forward. Until them, I'm sticking to what we know.

As an aside, gay hook up apps, like he used, are not part of Afghan culture.
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Old 06-19-2016, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Actually you have in a previous page.
What known facts did I discard?
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Old 06-19-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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The authorities haven't finished their investigation, and have no reason to tell us everything until they do. And did I act like a foreign language was scary? No! I just said they said he made a phone call and spoke in a foreign language to someone. Could it have been his wife or someone in a foreign country? You know, like a terrorist network?


If you would just read my post without getting angry about the gun thing, maybe you could understand the point I was trying to make.
Could have, would have, should have. I'm going by what we know so far. It doesn't help his ex-wife ( whose family says is frightened ) or anyone by having people gossip and jump to conclusions ESPECIALLY since the investigation isn't over.

As I said before. I'm going by the known facts.
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