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View Poll Results: Should Mexican citizens require a visa to visit Canada for tourism?
Yes 29 60.42%
No 19 39.58%
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Old 07-02-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Umm just fyi, the same immigration rules also apply in America, and in some states A LOT more stringent that what you have here in Canada. America also has the skilled workers visa program similar to Canada's that requires employer sponsorship and (in some cases) a master's degree or higher under the H1B program.
Stringent they may be, but actively policed they are not. Undermining them by multiple amnesties is something else Canada has not done.

You can set all the standards you desire but if there is no intent to aggressively maintain them it's merely window dressing for the masses while busily gaining future Democrats.
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Old 07-02-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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Mexicans need a visa to enter the USA, which won't be changing any time soon, considering the fact that whether a given nationality requires a visa is based on their likelihood of illegally staying in the country. If Canada removed the visa requirements, then the USA wouldn't be too happy at all, I'd imagine. The USA-Canada border is largely unguarded, unlike the USA-Mexico border. You'd see a lot more Mexicans flying to Canada, and either staying there illegally, or crossing into the USA from Canada.

Very bad idea, IMO.
And your choosing to ignore the fact your country has for decades enticed them to enter illegally by overlooking years of it and granting multiple amnesties to them so states like Az. can sustain a semblance of a competitive economy and the gaining of future Democrats, would be what;........ a good idea?

Did you hear any complaints from Canada about us having our ability to travel into the U.S. scrutinized carefully for financials and other details while Mexicans are watched wading across to disappear into your landscape only to be granted amnesty multiple times, as being a bad idea? Washington can shut it's duplicitous pie-hole on this issue.

We have an answer ready for the U.S. bellyaching over Canada's waiving of a certain visa. Read my lips....
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Old 07-02-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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Mexicans need a visa to enter the USA, which won't be changing any time soon, considering the fact that whether a given nationality requires a visa is based on their likelihood of illegally staying in the country. If Canada removed the visa requirements, then the USA wouldn't be too happy at all, I'd imagine. The USA-Canada border is largely unguarded, unlike the USA-Mexico border. You'd see a lot more Mexicans flying to Canada, and either staying there illegally, or crossing into the USA from Canada.

Very bad idea, IMO.
Very bad idea indeed.

We need to apply visa to Canadians as well and invest in northern border security.

It's gonna take time to deport 11M illegal immigrants but we have to do it, there's no other way.
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Old 07-02-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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Umm just fyi, the same immigration rules also apply in America, and in some states A LOT more stringent that what you have here in Canada. America also has the skilled workers visa program similar to Canada's that requires employer sponsorship and (in some cases) a master's degree or higher under the H1B program.
Plus, Hamilton & Toronto are so-called "sanctuary cities."
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Old 07-02-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Oh my, this should be fun to watch. Trump gonna pledge to build a wall and require visas from all of these places is he?

Map: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States | Center for Immigration Studies
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Old 07-02-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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Let Trump build his wall,it wont stop illegal immigration one iota.
Example;Traffic at the San Ysidro border going into Mexico=
http://www.deekadelic.com/wp-content...large570-1.jpg

Same border going into USA=
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...erCrossing.JPG

draw your own conclusions.
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Old 07-02-2016, 12:05 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Let Trump build his wall,it wont stop illegal immigration one iota.
Example;Traffic at the San Ysidro border going into Mexico=
http://www.deekadelic.com/wp-content...large570-1.jpg

Same border going into USA=
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...erCrossing.JPG

draw your own conclusions.
Apples to oranges. Pretty sure you just pass right into Mexico from the USA, unchecked unless you have items to declare (but if you want to go further into Mexico than the border towns, then you'll encounter border control checkpoints).

Most of those cars lining up to enter the USA are probably re-entering the USA, from a visit to Mexico, and more thorough screening is employed.
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Old 07-02-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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^ Can be seen in this video -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyOBkI6-OMk
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Old 07-02-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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Stringent they may be, but actively policed they are not. Undermining them by multiple amnesties is something else Canada has not done.

You can set all the standards you desire but if there is no intent to aggressively maintain them it's merely window dressing for the masses while busily gaining future Democrats.
Not at all. Do you even know what the H1B visa program is about? Every year, the USCIS selects 85000 applicants out of a pool of 300,000+ applicants for temporary work visas. The documentation required to qualify are extensive: minimum bachelor or master's degree completed in the U.S., employer sponsorship and job offer in the field of study that pays ABOVE market salaries, proof that no U.S. applicants are qualified for the similar position, proof that an extensive job search has been conducted by the employer. All associated costs must be paid by the employer, which typically amount up to $8000 - $15000 USD per applicant in terms of immigration attorney fees. Keep in mind that this is merely the application process for a TEMPORARY WORK permit, while the full green card process can take anywhere between 5 to 15 years of review by USCIS.
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Old 07-02-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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Not at all. Do you even know what the H1B visa program is about? Every year, the USCIS selects 85000 applicants out of a pool of 300,000+ applicants for temporary work visas. The documentation required to qualify are extensive: minimum bachelor or master's degree completed in the U.S., employer sponsorship and job offer in the field of study that pays ABOVE market salaries, proof that no U.S. applicants are qualified for the similar position, proof that an extensive job search has been conducted by the employer. All associated costs must be paid by the employer, which typically amount up to $8000 - $15000 USD per applicant in terms of immigration attorney fees. Keep in mind that this is merely the application process for a TEMPORARY WORK permit, while the full green card process can take anywhere between 5 to 15 years of review by USCIS.
Uuuh excuse me; but we're talking about the ILLEGAL immigration not the legal ones. How many of those do you have again; why somewhere between 11 and 13 million with some authorities putting it closer to 20.

How many of those were H1B1 visas do you think?

Do you even know how many of them have had their part in servicing your car in the southwestern states? Do you know how many of them there are actually working in the states like Arizona, California, and Texas, any idea at all? I have.

One example: on the eve of the change to employer required status checks in Yuma Az. pick-ups and Suburbans were stolen at a rate never before seen to then get loaded up with anything of value from rental properties, light fixtures, sinks, toilets, windows, doors,... right down to the copper wiring in the walls, to then beat feet back to Mexico with their loot in anticipation of being told by their employers they had to fire them all before the police came by checking up on the employers.

It was a tourists/snowbirds/citizens activity for the next few weeks to tour around and look at the devastation to homes and properties along with steel sluice gates ripped out for their scrap value when taken into Mexico.

That law was all "window dressing" that never came to pass so they all returned within months, probably to take up occupancy once again in the same houses they'd stripped bare just months prior.

Now I put it to you thusly, how many employers are going to put up 8-15K for a visa application on behalf of a legal one when there are 30 or 40 illegal ones per day pounding on his doors.

Go to any Home Depot parking lot in the southwest and you can pick from any number of them standing there waiting for contractors to pull up and select a few.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/az-...cute-illegals/

C'mon now, you can yack about the rules all you want but when few obey them and YOU know it ahead of time but still do nothing about it and accord them schooling, medical care and later grant them forgiveness and citizenship; who the heck do you think you're fooling? Certainly not them or anyone else with the brains god gave them.

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