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Old 06-26-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: British Columbia ☀️ ♥ 🍁 ♥ ☀️
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Long live the Queen !!

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Old 06-26-2016, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Long live the Queen !!

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She's 90, your wish has come true! But for real, I think HRM has a century in her.

Plenty of Brits already here and I'd be happy to welcome more. I think it's a bit of a shame, I'm a believer in the EU as a force for good, with wiser governance things could have worked out. I also regret Canada losing an ally in Europe and fear for CETA. I'm marrying a British citizen and had hoped to move there in the future, at least for a time. I worry in a few year it'll be a greatly diminished land compared to the one I last set foot in.
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Old 06-26-2016, 09:14 PM
 
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I suspect that a lot of the searches coming from British IPs might not be from British citizens at all. They could be from newcomers to Britain, who will now be either unwelcome, or unemployed, or both. Maybe now they're thinking of moving further overseas for those reasons? Just a thought.
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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I also regret Canada losing an ally in Europe....
Why is Canada losing an ally in Europe?
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Why is Canada losing an ally in Europe?
I should have been clearer, losing an ally in "Europe" as shorthand, like Brussels, for the European Union. The UK was one of the big countries that argued for a free trade deal with Canada that would help open up new markets for us in Central and Eastern Europe that we have little trade with at the moment. A deal that may now not go through. They were also able to be an ally to us when it came to other EU matters.
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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I should have been clearer, losing an ally in "Europe" as shorthand, like Brussels, for the European Union. The UK was one of the big countries that argued for a free trade deal with Canada that would help open up new markets for us in Central and Eastern Europe that we have little trade with at the moment. A deal that may now not go through. They were also able to be an ally to us when it came to other EU matters.
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
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Old 06-27-2016, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Wouldn't it be better to move to another EU nation instead of Canada (or anywhere else outside of the EU) if you're not happy about the prospect of living in a country not part of the EU?
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Old 06-27-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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I don't think they really mean it, more to Australia, perhaps. You know how the British hate their weather, and not sure Canada is an improvement.


Despite all the media brainwashing (Brexit is so bad blah blah blah), I think it is good for both the UK and the EU that Brexit now is a reality. The UK is half hearted to start with, and always ask for different treatment from everyone else (euro, Schengen etc.), and it also has some fundamental difference in terms of trade, regulation etc. from the continental powers. This thing is gonna happen sooner or later. Without the UK, the EU may find it easier to integrate, no to mention that departure of a strong American voice in EU affairs is definitely a great thing.


The EU on the other hand, really needs some sort of reflection and reform. Its structure is rather opaque and has been criticized for being anti-democratic and elitist. Brussels has the greatest number of lobbyists in the world after Washington DC. It also needs to take a less aggressive approach - things such like Europe integration can't happen over night. It should be realistic about how big and powerful it can be - for example, rapidly including the eastern European countries cause much of the discontent among people in existing member states. It is not about "racist" or discrimination, it is about countries can't absorb such rapid changes in such a short time.


Germany should get over their fear with deficits. I don't know why they are so obsessed with it. Fiscal deficits if managed well is an efficient way of balancing the economy. It is not necessarily a bad thing. In saving Greece, they are essentially asking Greece to shoot a bullet into its own head. Nobody is saved except the French and German banks.


And also, Greece should bite the bullet and leave too, not because Greece is particularly bad, but because the way EU is trying to "save" Europe is actually not doing Greece any good. Greece is better off on its own (yes, it will cease to be able to borrow at artificially low rate, but that's exactly what the country needs). Greece was a mistake to start with, and desperately trying the keep it is more harmful. The short term pain will be inevitable, which the banks and free-marketers will hate because they loathe any kind of instability, but in the long term it keeps EU stable.
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Old 06-27-2016, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Wouldn't it be better to move to another EU nation instead of Canada (or anywhere else outside of the EU) if you're not happy about the prospect of living in a country not part of the EU?
Language barriers?
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Old 06-27-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I don't think they really mean it, more to Australia, perhaps. You know how the British hate their weather, and not sure Canada is an improvement.
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I know many of them prefer Australia, but most British people I've met in Canada actually don't mind the weather here too much.


Winter is much colder of course but generally far less gloomy than in the UK.


And summers are much nicer in most of Canada.

Sure, if you want a tropical climate you'll go to Australia. But not everyone wants that.
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