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Old 08-12-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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Will not happen in US, as it would require a change to the Constitution (although some make the argument that it could be done by legislation--still won't happen).
their constitution is heavily flawed and outdated. Might as well be revamped too.
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Old 08-12-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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It's been discussed in the media in Quebec for a few years now, as early as 2009 from what I can see. The reasons are two-fold: one is that they get first world care and they often skip the country without paying the bill, and two is that their babies are Canadian citizens by birth.


For those who can read French.


From when the story first broke in 2009: Tourisme obstétrique | ICI.Radio-Canada.ca


A more recent article:


Ces femmes qui viennent au Québec pour accoucher | TVA Nouvelles
The good thing is that we have a neighbour which is more attractive for this kind of birth tourism. In most cases, people would simply choose the US over Canada anyway. For them, it is like, since I have spending the money and taking the risk, why not having an American baby.
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Old 08-12-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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The good thing is that we have a neighbour which is more attractive for this kind of birth tourism. In most cases, people would simply choose the US over Canada anyway. For them, it is like, since I have spending the money and taking the risk, why not having an American baby.
I was curious and did a search and found this:

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No reliable data exists on the number of Chinese births in the U.S, but estimates by industry publications projected a total of 60,000 for 2014, a sixfold increase over 2012. Awareness of the trend skyrocketed in China in 2013 when the popular romantic comedy “Finding Mr. Right” portrayed a Chinese woman, the mistress of a wealthy businessman, sneaking into Seattle on a tourist visa in order to buy Gucci bags and have an American child.
That's a sixfold increase in two years due to one romantic comedy movie?

Born In The USA: Why Chinese 'Birth Tourism' Is Booming In California
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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I was curious and did a search and found this:

That's a sixfold increase in two years due to one romantic comedy movie?

Born In The USA: Why Chinese 'Birth Tourism' Is Booming In California
no, it is not due to a movie.


It grew significantly due to three reasons


1) Canada and US visa became a lot easier to get for Chinese tourists. Now you get a 10 year multiple entry one. It used to be 3 or 6 months single entry. I used to be rejected for US student visa even with full scholarship and a top 50 university, which was not that rare at that time. Now it almost never happens.


2) the Chinese are a lot wealthier. Even in 2005, traveling to a western country was considered a luxury. Now most middle class families (that's tens of millions of them) can afford that.


3) The Chinese parents are frustrated by the Chinese education system and want to create more doors for their children.


Anyway, I am strongly against it. Canadian citizenship should not be given so freely.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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First i've heard of the issue, if its a big deal the solution seems simple enough ,just repeal offering instant citizenship to infants born in the country to non Canadian residents.
Mexicans and Hillary Clinton won't be happy about it
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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Mexicans and Hillary Clinton won't be happy about it
Why would an American politician care? Canadians can't vote in American elections.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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Why would an American politician care? Canadians can't vote in American elections.
Canadian lives matter!
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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Canadian lives matter!
but without giving them citizenship, those are not Canadian lives to start with.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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People who are abusing this birthright, will end up the reason for it being taken away.

"Dr. Jan Christilaw, president of B.C. Women’s Hospital, said that in 2007/08, criteria was put in place to define those who could have their babies there, “because everyone wanted to come here” and there are only so many labour and delivery rooms and nurses.

“We can’t provide high-quality, safe care if we are operating over capacity. If we’re telling women there is certain criteria for coming here, then it’s not fair to let people come from other countries. I have a mandate to look after our own people,” she said.

As a result, women from other countries who are short-term visitors cannot deliver at the hospital.

Christilaw conceded it is not a perfect system, as the 12 who delivered last year did “slip through the cracks.”

Birth tourism from China a booming business in B.C. | Vancouver Sun

Richmond woman’s e-petition calls for end to birth tourism in Canada | Vancouver Sun
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:08 AM
 
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1) Canada and US visa became a lot easier to get for Chinese tourists. Now you get a 10 year multiple entry one. It used to be 3 or 6 months single entry. I used to be rejected for US student visa even with full scholarship and a top 50 university, which was not that rare at that time. Now it almost never happens.
Somewhat off topic, but:
Canada seeks to double visa offices in China to attract more high-skilled workers - Politics - CBC News
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